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Old 04-04-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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Come to think of it, if you count strippers, bartenders, and masseuses, there is a lot of prostitution in NYC that never gets prosecuted and is defacto decriminalized, and many people working in the above jobs are outright prostitutes or close to it. But NYC doesn't shut down every bar or club or massage parlor.
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Old 04-04-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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Come to think of it, if you count strippers, bartenders, and masseuses, there is a lot of prostitution in NYC that never gets prosecuted and is defacto decriminalized, and many people working in the above jobs are outright prostitutes or close to it. But NYC doesn't shut down every bar or club or massage parlor.
all bartenders are outright prostitutes? interesting theory, somehow I doubt that

i bet the police officers will be disappointed in prostitution is decriminalized. they cannot turn tricks for information. they sleep with sluts for info and get the info in exchange for not arresting them. that will reduce the information they get whether the information is correct or not
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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Thanks to technology, poor economy, and host of other reasons everyone and their mother (or father) it seems is a hoe or hustler. Indoor prossing used to mean a brothel or maybe a girl or guy who went on calls to hotels or whatever. Now you've got plenty of females, trannies and males not just doing the latter, but working as hoes, escorts, or whatever out of residential apartments. Just look at that NYC corrections a few months ago for *allegedly* soliciting at some suspect hotel in Queens.

While at first slow to the change in world's oldest profession, NYPD like other LE have moved onto cracking down on indoor prossing. As such you have an almost endless stream of girls and guys getting busted. When that happens most are put through the system which can and often does mean a trip to Riker's if they cannot post bail, assuming it is requested and granted.


Then you have also the usual; hardcore career hoes and hustlers who have been busted several times; for them there isn't usually a "get out of jail card", but processed and if convicted time served in jail.


While yes, there is a problem with trafficking, you have no end of females, trannies and guys who just are career prostitutes. If they are doing what they are doing in their own homes or an apartment, people notice and file a complaint with LE; that starts a well worn path all over again.


Making some types of prostitution an offense rather than a crime isn't going to sit well with those who have to live in buildings where trannies, girls, and boys ply their trade.


NYC introduced community courts a few decades ago in attempts to ensure more fair justice for social and low level crimes or offenses; but if Riker's is still seeing a large population of prostitutes, then it would seem something is wrong somewhere.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:14 PM
 
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all bartenders are outright prostitutes? interesting theory, somehow I doubt that

i bet the police officers will be disappointed in prostitution is decriminalized. they cannot turn tricks for information. they sleep with sluts for info and get the info in exchange for not arresting them. that will reduce the information they get whether the information is correct or not
I did not say ALL bartenders.

However you haven't been out much if you don't think that's happening at certain bars.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:22 PM
 
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Thanks to technology, poor economy, and host of other reasons everyone and their mother (or father) it seems is a hoe or hustler. Indoor prossing used to mean a brothel or maybe a girl or guy who went on calls to hotels or whatever. Now you've got plenty of females, trannies and males not just doing the latter, but working as hoes, escorts, or whatever out of residential apartments. Just look at that NYC corrections a few months ago for *allegedly* soliciting at some suspect hotel in Queens.

While at first slow to the change in world's oldest profession, NYPD like other LE have moved onto cracking down on indoor prossing. As such you have an almost endless stream of girls and guys getting busted. When that happens most are put through the system which can and often does mean a trip to Riker's if they cannot post bail, assuming it is requested and granted.


Then you have also the usual; hardcore career hoes and hustlers who have been busted several times; for them there isn't usually a "get out of jail card", but processed and if convicted time served in jail.


While yes, there is a problem with trafficking, you have no end of females, trannies and guys who just are career prostitutes. If they are doing what they are doing in their own homes or an apartment, people notice and file a complaint with LE; that starts a well worn path all over again.


Making some types of prostitution an offense rather than a crime isn't going to sit well with those who have to live in buildings where trannies, girls, and boys ply their trade.


NYC introduced community courts a few decades ago in attempts to ensure more fair justice for social and low level crimes or offenses; but if Riker's is still seeing a large population of prostitutes, then it would seem something is wrong somewhere.
If people in NYC think they are so high and mighty then do not live in a rental apartment building full of poor people!

Because every time you through a hooker or a drug dealer in jail, another one just takes their place. Buildings which have lots of hookers and drug dealers in them get that as a big part of their client base because they are low income. Unless they can get rid of all low income people the hookers, trannies, and drug dealers aren't going anywhere.

Lock them up for awhile and they go straight back to doing what they were doing before when they get out. Now with a criminal record they CAN'T do anything different, so all arresting them does is trap them in a lifestyle of crime permanently.

A war against drug dealing or prostitutes is a war against poor people, and that's the real problem and that's why they've somewhat already started to decriminalize it. And for those complaining about traffic in buildings, they need to move to the suburbs!

Of course when prostitutes go high end (Melania) they never get in trouble.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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prostitution breeds human trafficking, and all these f'n grown men partaking in the exploitation. All races, poor girls are brought to this country, and have to pay admission the Hard Way! Or those lost girls, getting pimped out every day on Back Page, by some ruthless degenerate.

Legalizing it will only condone the behavior. Have the Pros work in legit brothels, out in the Boonies only, but continue to arrest and criminalize this practice in the city limits. It is an epidemic , usually involving abducted runaways, immigrants, junkies, very low self esteem peoples with mental problems. the most desperate and vulnerable. Could be your sister, aunt, or mom, you get it?

As for smoking in public, NO WAY!. it is just like peeing in the street, or drinking in public with your shirt off. I dont need to see or smell that. Blowing some weed around my baby carriage, really? Legal in your dwelling or a hookah bar only. Use hookah bars for Buddah Bars, is nyc ready for Coffee Shops? In public, at the park, no way, just like having a hard drink, outside a bar, you still gota keep it out of sight. Have some dignity man!
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:27 PM
 
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I did not say ALL bartenders.

However you haven't been out much if you don't think that's happening at certain bars.
those must not be in the bars in the neighborhoods where I hang out
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:20 AM
 
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If people in NYC think they are so high and mighty then do not live in a rental apartment building full of poor people!

Because every time you through a hooker or a drug dealer in jail, another one just takes their place. Buildings which have lots of hookers and drug dealers in them get that as a big part of their client base because they are low income. Unless they can get rid of all low income people the hookers, trannies, and drug dealers aren't going anywhere.

Lock them up for awhile and they go straight back to doing what they were doing before when they get out. Now with a criminal record they CAN'T do anything different, so all arresting them does is trap them in a lifestyle of crime permanently.

A war against drug dealing or prostitutes is a war against poor people, and that's the real problem and that's why they've somewhat already started to decriminalize it. And for those complaining about traffic in buildings, they need to move to the suburbs!

Of course when prostitutes go high end (Melania) they never get in trouble.

There you go again, shooting off your mouth without having all the facts.


For your information indoor prossing is happening at all economic levels and over New York City.


https://www.habitatmag.com/Publicati...stitution-Case


https://therealdeal.com/2012/04/12/s...out-his-lease/


Madam busted for running brothel - NY Daily News


https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...ted-police-say


and so it goes...


Do you think all those people on websites like Rentboy.com, Exotics.com or whatever were living in the Projects?


Again NYPD has known for decades, since around the 1980's that just because prostitutes weren't working the usual spots (bars, streets, clubs, etc...) that the practice had been eradicated.


OFF THE STREET, PROSTITUTION IS FLOURISHING - NYTimes.com


As this makes clear, and as one has previously stated there are all sorts out there *working*; everyone from college or graduate students to administrative assistants to anyone else that needs extra or just money.
https://www.wired.com/2011/01/ff_sextrade/


New York City is a high COL place, and the median income is only around $50k, that just isn't enough for some people.


If it is happening in FLA you know it is going down in NY:
Three Florida college students arrested in prostitution sting*


Crushed With Debt, Thousands of New York Students Turn to Sex Work to Make Ends Meet | Village Voice
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:52 AM
 
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There you go again, shooting off your mouth without having all the facts.


For your information indoor prossing is happening at all economic levels and over New York City.


https://www.habitatmag.com/Publicati...stitution-Case


https://therealdeal.com/2012/04/12/s...out-his-lease/


Madam busted for running brothel - NY Daily News


https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...ted-police-say


and so it goes...


Do you think all those people on websites like Rentboy.com, Exotics.com or whatever were living in the Projects?


Again NYPD has known for decades, since around the 1980's that just because prostitutes weren't working the usual spots (bars, streets, clubs, etc...) that the practice had been eradicated.


OFF THE STREET, PROSTITUTION IS FLOURISHING - NYTimes.com


As this makes clear, and as one has previously stated there are all sorts out there *working*; everyone from college or graduate students to administrative assistants to anyone else that needs extra or just money.
https://www.wired.com/2011/01/ff_sextrade/


New York City is a high COL place, and the median income is only around $50k, that just isn't enough for some people.


If it is happening in FLA you know it is going down in NY:
Three Florida college students arrested in prostitution sting*


Crushed With Debt, Thousands of New York Students Turn to Sex Work to Make Ends Meet | Village Voice
Bugsy you can come out of the closet. You're hiring people from those sites, aren't you?

Back to my point, I don't care if a hooker has slept their way to park avenue. There's a link between prostitution and poverty and someone who has to have lots of people in and out their door doesn't sound well if to me. Don't think you can get a mortgage by writing bjs as ones profession on the mortgage application.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:55 AM
 
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prostitution breeds human trafficking, and all these f'n grown men partaking in the exploitation. All races, poor girls are brought to this country, and have to pay admission the Hard Way! Or those lost girls, getting pimped out every day on Back Page, by some ruthless degenerate.

Legalizing it will only condone the behavior. Have the Pros work in legit brothels, out in the Boonies only, but continue to arrest and criminalize this practice in the city limits. It is an epidemic , usually involving abducted runaways, immigrants, junkies, very low self esteem peoples with mental problems. the most desperate and vulnerable. Could be your sister, aunt, or mom, you get it?

As for smoking in public, NO WAY!. it is just like peeing in the street, or drinking in public with your shirt off. I dont need to see or smell that. Blowing some weed around my baby carriage, really? Legal in your dwelling or a hookah bar only. Use hookah bars for Buddah Bars, is nyc ready for Coffee Shops? In public, at the park, no way, just like having a hard drink, outside a bar, you still gota keep it out of sight. Have some dignity man!
Oh good grief don't have a baby then if you think k your child can't have smoke around it. Of course there is plenty of environmental pollution. And yes prosecuting women for prostitution is really a war against poor women!

It should be legal, and definitely decriminalized!
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