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Old 07-09-2019, 06:07 AM
 
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i get the plucky immigrant boot-strappy narrative ... but really you're going to blame teething toddlers over the leadership of the biggest public housing portfolio in the country which has one of the most egregious lead paint issues. glad to see you're putting the analytical skills gained during that PhD to work

People who let their teething toddlers teethe on wall paint are seriously unfit for parenthood. It boggles the mind how someone would let their kids eat the walls. And if the recipients of public charity are unhappy with the housing provided by the taxpayers, why don't they provide for their kids by themselves? Or if they can neither provide a home for their kids, nor care enough for their kids to prevent them from eating paint, why oh why do they have kids in the first place?


Native or immigrant, we all have a choice of using however meager resources we have to build something with them, or of sitting on rear end and forever blaming someone else for not giving us enough. The first method tends to lead to better outcomes (just a cursory observation, not an "analysis").


Immigrants on J or H visas couldn't care less about lead paint, and are fine with marginal housing. Their interests do not revolve around such stuff, but around their studies and career. The difference between the NYCHA dwellers and J/H visa immigrants is that 10-15 years later the NYCHA dwellers still typically live in the NYCHA and complain about lead paint, while the J/H visa immigrants typically own a home and paint it with whatever paint they choose.

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Old 07-09-2019, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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So basically jail? At the rate rent is it would be cheaper to just commit crimes and go to jail for free!

Jails include your meals.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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Jails include your meals.
Guess you missed the part about how the Pods include access to ramen
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Squirrel Tree
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LOL. Meanwhile the rich live in 20 room mansions.

WeWork, WeLive, Podsharing = making the middle class accept mediocre in the guise of cool.
Who says the people who live in these places are middle class? I think our society is allergic to the word poor when it refers to an American who isn't a homeless drunk.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Squirrel Tree
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i get the plucky immigrant boot-strappy narrative ... but really you're going to blame teething toddlers over the leadership of the biggest public housing portfolio in the country which has one of the most egregious lead paint issues. glad to see you're putting the analytical skills gained during that PhD to work



sadly i do remember this travesty but i was thinking more about the spaces i visited in the city(Queens, Brooklyn) with a friend (a canadian grad student) where it was warehouse space parsed into an SRO-ish space - lock on bed/personal room door with no cooking space bathroom in an external hallway. the cost was slightly more than the pod article stated - i believe it was $45 a day and $1300 for the month for the one she went with. She said most of the folks in the other spaces where folks with J1/H1-B1 visas or fellow students. she explained that the practice in the city is to charge international students/folks upwards to a years worth of rent to move in a space (the rationale given to her was she doesn't have a credit history so the LL is asking for a bigger deposit for the risk of renting to someone without a history).
J1 and H1 visa holders' kids probably eat more lead paint than children in the trailers and hoods and yet their behavior and grades are above average. This shows it's more about discipline and corporal punishment than anything.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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Guess you missed the part about how the Pods include access to ramen


Yeah, but that's an extra quarter per day in rent.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Jails include your meals.
Good point.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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J1 and H1 visa holders' kids probably eat more lead paint than children in the trailers and hoods and yet their behavior and grades are above average. This shows it's more about discipline and corporal punishment than anything.
They're not young children with developing brains. Yamaha fuel injection.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Squirrel Tree
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They're not young children with developing brains. Yamaha fuel injection.
H1 and J1 people's kids were usually born in the US in the same lead encrusted ghetto buildings as everyone else. My friend's husband is H1 and her kids were born in Newark where mom, dad and the 2 boys live in a studio apartment.
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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They're not young children with developing brains. Yamaha fuel injection.

Sufficient lead exposure affects any brain (sorry, my bad: initially I wrote hat-makers tended to go crazy from lead exposure, but that was actually from mercury. People who used to be occupationally poisoned by lead, though not very often, were welders). But the key is "sufficient exposure". You literally have to eat concentrated lead chips constantly. Lead house paint and lead pipes had been around for a couple of hundreds of years - everybody form my generation (including me) has been exposed to that. But kids under normal circumstances do not eat paint. Just living in a place painted with lead paint does not expose you to anything.


Lead paint laws are a screaming idiocy. Parents of young children should be educated about lead paint hazards, and that is all that is needed. Kids whose parents leave them to eat ANY wall paint face far worse risks than lead - they will indeed probably end up dropping out of school early, but lead exposure will be the least important reason for that.


But obviously people who choose to live in pods will also choose to have kids when they can afford space for kids (it is not specifically stated, but I think it goes without saying that you could not live in a pod with a kid).

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