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Old 10-20-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Democratic socialism = full blown Marxism. The problem is that global elites are not going to tell you “Marxism” because obviously no one will vote for these politicians. But Marxism is exactly what Democratic socialism is. It starts slowly and with promises to the “working class” and poor man but then grows slowly into Marxism.

I strongly suggest you read the actual “Communist Manifesto”. Like really sit down and read the entire book.
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:11 PM
 
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Democratic socialism = full blown Marxism. The problem is that global elites are not going to tell you “Marxism” because obviously no one will vote for these politicians. But Marxism is exactly what Democratic socialism is. It starts slowly and with promises to the “working class” and poor man but then grows slowly into Marxism.

I strongly suggest you read the actual “Communist Manifesto”. Like really sit down and read the entire book.
Of course it leads to communism
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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Democratic socialism = full blown Marxism. The problem is that global elites are not going to tell you “Marxism” because obviously no one will vote for these politicians. But Marxism is exactly what Democratic socialism is. It starts slowly and with promises to the “working class” and poor man but then grows slowly into Marxism.

I strongly suggest you read the actual “Communist Manifesto”. Like really sit down and read the entire book.
It has not lead to communism anywhere in Western Europe.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:01 PM
 
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100%, iammax.

I just ignore these comments, truly. As someone who actually holds dual U.S./Italian citizenship and spends a good portion of every year in Italy (and whose significant other is Dutch) I just let them go in one ear and out the other. It's truly ignorant and so sad at how they are being played like a fiddle by rich people who turn tax law to their favor and lobby for favorable government policies. Sigh.
I hold dual U.S./Spanish citizenship and I've lived in Spain for two years. All over Western Europe has socialized medicine, much better funded public transportation, and a much higher standard of living. These days all over Western Europe gets a lot of immigrants and there are not homogenous by any stretch of the means, Europe is now diverse due to immigration.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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Sweden tried socialism, realized it's mistake, and rejected it.

https://youtu.be/0lxD-gikpMs
Have you been to Sweden or anywhere in Europe? A lot of things that happen here you simply cannot read about, and will not find out about in the news.

Reading newspapers gets you only superficial knowledge at the most.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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How can you even compare the Nordic countries, which have tiny populations and don't have mass immigration?

Also, a lot of socialists think that the Nordic countries aren't socialist enough
As of 2017, Sweden had a foreign population of 24% (foreign meaning either born in another country or having both parents born abroad).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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100%, iammax.

I just ignore these comments, truly. As someone who actually holds dual U.S./Italian citizenship and spends a good portion of every year in Italy (and whose significant other is Dutch) I just let them go in one ear and out the other. It's truly ignorant and so sad at how they are being played like a fiddle by rich people who turn tax law to their favor and lobby for favorable government policies. Sigh.
The true problem is hatred of Black people. These people hate Blacks and other non whites so much they are willing to destroy themselves just in order to see other people suffer.

Some of them, for example, support Trump's treasonous acts re: Ukraine and Russia (never could have happened under Reagan), just because Trump says the racist things he says and he claimed he was going to build a wall that never materalized. Nevermind is trade war is actually hurting American farmers and businesses.

So the US is falling behind the rest of the developed around ,and becoming a lot more like Brazil. You have to pay a fantastic amount of money to live in a "safe" neighborhood, you have to pay fantastic costs for medical care and education and if you are not superrich you are so screwed.

I mean, unless someone is the CEO of a fortune 500 company, why would you care that taxes reduced Besos network from 100 billion to 70 billion? It's not like he is going to homeless or whatever.

What good is it doing anyone to just have a few people hoarding money and resources?
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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As of 2017, Sweden had a foreign population of 24% (foreign meaning either born in another country or having both parents born abroad).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden
A lot of racist white Americans have a 1500s concept of Europe. Many people immigrant to European countries, and yes they get citizenship eventually. Some even quicker.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Why would America want to be like Sweden? America is much more successful than Sweden.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:18 PM
 
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As of 2017, Sweden had a foreign population of 24% (foreign meaning either born in another country or having both parents born abroad).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden
It's still overwhelmingly a white European population.
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