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They can try it, but most won't go for it. "Not risking my life to have unproductive chats at the water cooler with people I could care less about"
It's the opposite. They'll see that WFH productivity is HIGHER due to lack of distractions. At least with childless Millennials. The Boomers are struggling though.
75% of my job requires FOCUS. I have way too many meetings on my calendar and not enough time to do actual work. It blows my mind how much companies are willing to pay excessive commercial real estate prices especially in NY for the ILLUSION of "collaboration". People spend half the time bull****ting and shooting the breeze.
When I had to go in 3 days a week it took me an extra week to complete deliverables I now finish same week. It depends on the job function but for what I do, remote work is best. Most of the stakeholders I have to interact with are not in NYC anyways.
100% true TOP TO BOTTOM. Let's face it, most people at work either secretly dislike each other or simply could care less about you. There is no such thing as "real friends" from work in the majority of cases. People can be more or less civil to each other, but that doesn't mean I am going to risk my life for that crap.
I am an instructor and I am way more productive at home too. Recently, the college said they had every intention of going back to campus. Good luck with that, because I won't be going back unless there is some kind of vaccine, etc. Also, students are not going to want to all of a sudden do a long commute if they see this can be done from home for the same amount or even cheaper.
I'm one of those "childless" people who love this situation. And yeah, "collaboration" at work...that's real funny.
Not likely. Distractions in the office are more work related, so not really distractions. Distractions at home ar non-work related. And I think managers are going to actually want to see what their subordinates are doing all day. As I said, some companies, Facebook being the poster child, tried allowing large numbers of their employees to work remotely, then stopped that policy as a failure.
And people will do it because they need jobs and need to get paid. If that involves going into an office, they will, as they have for the last 100 years.
And note Millenials, and now Gen Zs are now in their childbearing years. The Boomers are way past that. So they'll have the non-work distraction issues.
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They can try it, but most won't go for it. "Not risking my life to have unproductive chats at the water cooler with people I could care less about"
It's the opposite. They'll see that WFH productivity is HIGHER due to lack of distractions. At least with childless Millennials. The Boomers are struggling though.
75% of my job requires FOCUS. I have way too many meetings on my calendar and not enough time to do actual work. It blows my mind how much companies are willing to pay excessive commercial real estate prices especially in NY for the ILLUSION of "collaboration". People spend half the time bull****ting and shooting the breeze.
When I had to go in 3 days a week it took me an extra week to complete deliverables I now finish same week. It depends on the job function but for what I do, remote work is best. Most of the stakeholders I have to interact with are not in NYC anyways.
Recently, the college said they had every intention of going back to campus.
I'm actually kinda pissed off at this. My girlfriends college is so far rescheduled to be in person in the Fall. I know 1 of her classes can't be online unless this thing continues, and another one of her classes has basically **** teachers for online outside of this thing based on reviews. Sacrificial lambs.
It's also causing our long term Japan stay to get interrupted, but that's just me ******ing As of yesterday, we would have been able to stay until around October 11, but now we'll be coming back likely around August 16. Fingers crossed there won't be grocery lines anymore in NYC. We've gotten kinda used to the relaxed reaction as risky as it is here in Tokyo.
Who are these people who wanted to ride in filthy subways as morbidly obese sweatmachines press up against you?
Back in the 1980s, I road the subway every day, from Queens into Manhattan. First to NYU, later to work.
Your description is exactly what the subway was like in the 1980s during rush hour. In the summer, it could be 90 degrees down there. Packed like sardines. And not all cars had functioning air conditioners.
Occasionally, a nearly empty car arrived amid the packed cars. You knew there was something wrong with that car. Usually, it was a broken air conditioner and a homeless encampment, the car filled with the stench of urine and feces. Turning turning the car into a rancid sweat lodge.
You want to come here constantly with these weak jabs, you may want to plan them better.
As much as I hate this city, I'll brag about retiring at 44 in 3 years with a pension that's most likely triple what you're collecting in Alabama. A pension that I can take anywhere in the country and live like a real king. When I'm still young enough to enjoy it with my kids who won't even be in high school yet.
Now be warned that posts like yours are clear examples of pointless trolling. They will be scrutinized more closely from here on out...
I didn’t realize we were the same age. I have 9 more years then full pension based on my salary here in NYC. I’ll also try to catch an early out to grab a nice bon voyage lump payment and I will qualify for a payment of what I would get from social security until I hit 62 and actually collect it.
That plus our savings and my wife and I will be living like kings in someplace nice like Costa Rica. All at age 52 for me and 45 for her.
I enjoy NYC, but mainly stay for the fat salaries and beefed up pension because of it.
People are fed up and will be leaving the city of NY anyone who tells you otherwise is a homeowner or has some invested interest. Nobody with children will put up with eventual sky rocketing taxes with subpar school districts that bus lower income kids in and Real estate prices that have been Stagnant since 2015 . Look at all of the CEO’s of the Real estate companies where are they right now ? CEO of Corcoran she’s in Florida , CEO of Douglass Elliman he is out of the city. Also can’t wait to see who the next Mayor will be Eric Adams? He told all the white people to go back to Ohio and he created 100 Blacks in Law enforcement . Good luck !
Manhattan still has that glamour, that magic, that challenge, that sense of unknown opportunity. It may tarnish, and it may even someday lose that - but not yet.
However, you do better in NYC if you have a good grasp of English, including sentence structure and punctuation.
Not likely. Distractions in the office are more work related, so not really distractions. Distractions at home ar non-work related. And I think managers are going to actually want to see what their subordinates are doing all day. As I said, some companies, Facebook being the poster child, tried allowing large numbers of their employees to work remotely, then stopped that policy as a failure.
And people will do it because they need jobs and need to get paid. If that involves going into an office, they will, as they have for the last 100 years.
And note Millenials, and now Gen Zs are now in their childbearing years. The Boomers are way past that. So they'll have the non-work distraction issues.
This is such a tired argument. Anyone who has every worked from home on a regular basis for a long period of time knows that not only do you get more done, but you end working more hours. Productivity or lack of it rests solely with the employee. Has nothing to do with age. All of my key stakeholders are in Europe and China. Because of the time differences, we tag team deliverables. Works out just fine.
This is such a tired argument. Anyone who has every worked from home on a regular basis for a long period of time knows that not only do you get more done, but you end working more hours. Productivity or lack of it rests solely with the employee. Has nothing to do with age. All of my key stakeholders are in Europe and China. Because of the time differences, we tag team deliverables. Works out just fine.
Yes. One definitely works MORE from home and you can also get more done. There are many, many examples of people being present in the office who have zero productivity and are just present.
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As of yesterday, we would have been able to stay until around October 11, but now we'll be coming back likely around August 16. Fingers crossed there won't be grocery lines anymore in NYC. We've gotten kinda used to the relaxed reaction as risky as it is here in Tokyo.
