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Old 05-13-2020, 11:20 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Not all workers are made the same. They have different personalities and levels of experience. I hear a lot about how WFH has been such a great success but I'm willing to bet most of these are mid to senior level workers. If you are entry level, WFH will definitely slow your career growth. Unless you are one of those few disciplined self starters, most junior people benefit greatly from working alongside more senior people. It's so much easier to walk over to another desk than to have to officially schedule a meeting just to ask a simple question. So perhaps this will hasten more outsourcing because this is where a lot of the junior people are hired. And you can bet once the pandemic is over, Indian tech people will move back into shared offices where they can learn from each other. So the senior people are golden, especially if you are on an established career track that allows you to WFH. Junior people in the US are screwed. They will either become gig workers or just give up, perhaps fueling the tidal wave of social progressives that will have to take over government if they ever want to see their needs met.
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Not all workers are made the same. They have different personalities and levels of experience. I hear a lot about how WFH has been such a great success but I'm willing to bet most of these are mid to senior level workers. If you are entry level, WFH will definitely slow your career growth. Unless you are one of those few disciplined self starters, most junior people benefit greatly from working alongside more senior people. It's so much easier to walk over to another desk than to have to officially schedule a meeting just to ask a simple question. So perhaps this will hasten more outsourcing because this is where a lot of the junior people are hired. And you can bet once the pandemic is over, Indian tech people will move back into shared offices where they can learn from each other. So the senior people are golden, especially if you are on an established career track that allows you to WFH. Junior people in the US are screwed. They will either become gig workers or just give up, perhaps fueling the tidal wave of social progressives that will have to take over government if they ever want to see their needs met.
I think you make a really great point that I hadn't considered nor seen elsewhere. There IS a lot of value of more junior employees absorbing behaviors of more senior people. That's tough to do over Zoom - more like: how do the more successful senior leaders interact with each other, what is their body language telling us, how do they dress (and what's expected of me).
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Not enough ethnic whites left in the city to elect a conservative/republican. There were still plenty of ethnic white areas in the late 80s/early 90s for Guilliani but those days are long gone. Now if Asians woke up and started voting in lock step with the ethnic whites and conservative Hispanic/americans, it could happen but unlikely. I'd love to see an blue/red election map from 1993 when Rudy beat Dinkins if one exist. You would see today blue districts that you'd never believe once were red.

For this reason, NYC has no future in the short term as far as I'm concerned. If you can sell, sell.

NYC needs a moderate outer-borough Asian to run for mayor. He/she can lead a great middle-class movement of all races and ethnicities to victory.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Enough of your scare tactics! I suspect you are secretly a real-estate bottom-feeder trolling for bargains here. I bought my house in 1990. Whatever happens happens. But homes in safe quiet outer-borough neighborhoods like my S.I. neighborhood will always be desirable.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:14 PM
 
Location: In a rural area
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NYC needs a moderate outer-borough Asian to run for mayor. He/she can lead a great middle-class movement of all races and ethnicities to victory.
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Old 05-14-2020, 05:23 AM
 
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Of my colleagues, at least half are looking forward to getting back to the office. A few are totally sold on fully remote and would never go back if given the option. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
The correct approach is a nuanced one that appreciates all people's situations.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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New York has persevered. The city's current residents and businesses may leave due to the skyrocketing costs of living, or for other reasons. But I've learned, as a native New Yorker who has seen 50 plus years of this city's evolution, triumphs and tragedies, that there are people who are lured to this city, and will fill the void of the "natives," to keep the city going!
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:01 AM
 
Location: close to home
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New York has persevered. The city's current residents and businesses may leave due to the skyrocketing costs of living, or for other reasons. But I've learned, as a native New Yorker who has seen 50 plus years of this city's evolution, triumphs and tragedies, that there are people who are lured to this city, and will fill the void of the "natives," to keep the city going!
. And there are a lot of natives who aren't going anywhere because they still want to be here.
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Old 05-14-2020, 11:32 AM
 
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New York has persevered. The city's current residents and businesses may leave due to the skyrocketing costs of living, or for other reasons. But I've learned, as a native New Yorker who has seen 50 plus years of this city's evolution, triumphs and tragedies, that there are people who are lured to this city, and will fill the void of the "natives," to keep the city going!
I took this picture today of everybody leaving NYC

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Old 05-14-2020, 11:41 AM
 
Location: close to home
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I took this picture today of everybody leaving NYC


Don't let the waves hit them on the way out....
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