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Old 11-20-2020, 05:55 AM
 
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I would think doing all kinds of personal stuff is a big issue
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Old 11-20-2020, 06:40 AM
 
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I would think doing all kinds of personal stuff is a big issue
This is an assumption, not the reality. My company doesn’t make any decisions without the data to back it up (we’re a tech company that works with big data and data analysis so it’s only natural that we’d used data to determine if wfh is working). We created a WFH committee that analyzed all sorts of invasive workday information (amounts of emails sent over time, number of deals closed, numbers of meetings booked, number of client calls, etc). We even conducted time in motion analysis for some teams that tracked their work day activity: how much time you spend on internal emails, external emails, preparing for meetings, etc. An interesting thing we did find is that a significant amount of time is spent on meetings- lots of them internal. This means that if 4-5 hours of your work day is meetings, it leaves you with little time to do actual work which means you may end up working MORE and ultimately will burn out. My company is now doing things like “forcing” days off and intentionally scheduling mid day breaks where you cannot book meetings so people have down time.

So any decrease in productivity, perceived or legitimate, is likely also coming from people working too much and then getting fatigued. They really don’t have time for “all kinds of personal stuff” during the work day. Add to that a raging pandemic that’s now 8 months in and getting worse, people aren’t holding up so well.
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Old 11-20-2020, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Your posts had some only studying Europe..LOL..not the USA.

Corps follow the herd, not Chase, the anomaly.

Partnership NY studied it in detail, as have other business orgs nationally. Its crushing mass transit as ridership is projected to be anemic for years to come. The MTA, US largest, is bracing for far under normal ridership until, at minimum, 2025.

https://new.mta.info/coronavirus/ridership

Europeans are lazier to begin with....


Every company is having different experiences with WFH, which is to be expected. WFH employees are saving money and getting back hours of their lives that were spent commuting. WFH is here to stay, even post-vaccine. The increased violent crime on the subway is another reason to avoid the transit system.
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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Time will tell ..to early to say what will be as far as this stuff.personally I would not make long term plans around working from home
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: The Bronx
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A lot of people are indeed moving out, the wealthiest by choice, the rest due to eviction procedures and inability to pay the rent but this is nothing new, and a few because they just don't see the kick out of it any more due to not much going on. It has just been accelerated by all this BS going on.

Subway cuts are not going to help and NYC is going to suffer for the next 10 years, however, though it will suffer, it doesn't mean it will be doomed and people are not going to progressively come back. Where else would they go? There is a reason why all the transplants came herein the first place. There is only so much you can do in Madison, WI or in Lansing, MI.

Also let's not forget that prospective NYC mayor Eric Adams is a retired police officer and never bashed the NYPD. You would tell me "but look at crime increase in BK". There is nothing a Borough President can do about any of it. Am I a fan of Eric Adams? No, would I pick him over DeBlasio? 100%
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: New York City
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A lot of people are indeed moving out, the wealthiest by choice, the rest due to eviction procedures
there are no eviction procedures
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The Bronx
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there are no eviction procedures
Evictions have resumed, with restrictions but they have resumed.
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Old 11-20-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Time will tell ..to early to say what will be as far as this stuff.personally I would not make long term plans around working from home
My average, Manhattan-based F500 company has (like most everyone else) been WFH since March. Our productivity has actually increased for the duration, which was surprising to me but maybe shouldn't have been. While it's true that there are likely more "personal" errands during the day than an in-office environment, it's also true that traditional work-life barriers, such as a commute, no longer exist and thus many will work later into the evening if their computer/workstation is already "out". Surveys have showed we have the opposite problem from lack of productivity - people are actually burnt out and feel like work has imposed on family time.

All of that said, I'm fairly confident in saying that the final solution will be some hybrid of in-office (say, 2-4 days per week) and continued WFH for the remaining. At least for us, that means that relocation outside of the region is likely off the table, but could encourage people who were on the fence about the suburbs to make the move as the commute for, say, 3 days in more bearable.

For me, I'm actually excited to get back to the office as I miss the face-to-face comradery and the fact that my wife and I share a bedroom office and talk over each other all day (kids are outside bedroom door in living room) our personal WFH setup is just not ideal. For me, going in to the office 3-4 days per week and WFH for 1-2 (with one of those being Friday) sounds just about perfect.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:03 AM
 
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For those WFH, is the company purchasing equipment for you to use at home? Computers? Monitors? Printers? Printer ink? Are they paying at least a portion of your Internet bill?
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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For those WFH, is the company purchasing equipment for you to use at home? Computers? Monitors? Printers? Printer ink? Are they paying at least a portion of your Internet bill?
For me, we have a budget that we can expense up to (off of the top of my head I think it's $400) for WFH supplies. I haven't actually taken advantage yet since I don't have room for much, but it's there if we want it - outside of a cheapo notebook to scribble in I'm otherwise 100% digital at this point, so nothing I really need other than more space. Internet bill explicitly not covered though, and I feel that is sensible.

My wife gets a monthly amount added directly into her paycheck which is nice.
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