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Old 09-04-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Rochester, NY/The Bronx, NY
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If Shanghai is so better move there and get out of our city!!!
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:08 PM
 
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Shanghai represents China and New york represents US . Which is better? I agree Shanghai is better in terms of sex bars , human slavery is going on there among other things local government and police is corrupt . There was an investigative reporter in China who wanted to expose the state of hospitals , she gave green tea instead of an urine sample and doctors came up with all kinds of diseases and put her on $300 worth of meds ! People are so not high class or open minded in Shanghai or China . New york made Shanghai by importing all those manufacturing jobs overseas .

There is no need for comparison . Nobody wants to live in China . People in my old country India are mad after american culture and way of life and New york represents all that - freedom !
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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absolutely no standards for safety or human rights in China or in the rest of the developing world for that matter . Shanghai businessmen are busy stealing away US technology and tap water has high levels of toxins . It's so polluted cancer is becoming an epidemic in both China and India . Ya I know tall buildings and wide roads and trees look nice but overall life is hard in China . Students have to study very hard to get ahead in life .
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:52 PM
 
Location: New York City
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This is a ludicrous thread probably posted by a troll. Nobody lives in New York for the karaoke bars and massage parlors. If that's what you value most in a city you'll never be happy in New York, or any American city.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:22 PM
 
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I just coughed out my cereal laughing so hard at all the propaganda and slander against Shanghai. I'm sorry your city is filthy and filled with urine-scented homeless people while you breath in that toxic smog and listen to all the jackasses NYC is so popularly known for. I know it's hard that you wait anywhere between 7-15 minutes for your transit to finally work and that you have to pay crazy high amounts for all of that crap, but really now picking on another city? That's a new low.

Anybody who's ever been to Shanghai knows how much better it is than NYC. People don't even compare it anymore. They've moved on to comparing it with Stockholm, Tokyo, and Paris. Shanghai is cleaner, its people more civilized, its culture more refined, and its atmosphere more enjoyable. In Shanghai you don't hear loud yelling cussing pedestrians dat can' even taulk rite! In Shanghai you expect if not demand your transit to come on time every time. Rush hour 1-2 minutes regular times 2-4 minutes. In Shanghai they spend lots of money to hire round the clock servicemen to make sure there's no garbage on the streets and sidewalks. There are waste baskets and recycling bins on every corner AND one in the middle of each block. The very few homeless people you might find due to the tremendous migration to the city know enough about hygiene to be clean even if they are homeless. Yes, there are tons of cars just like in NYC. The difference is they actually know how to drive. Accident rates are much lower in Shanghai screw that in all of China than in NYC alone nevermind the rest of the US. Speaking of accidents, crime rates are also much lower, lower than even Canada and you know many regions in Canada they leave their doors open on warm summer nights. You can hop on any transportation service and use the same transit card. In NYC the metrocard is only good for MTA transit. You need mucho dinero for taxis and Greyhound and Amtrak. The people there also know the value of normal exercise. Modern generations take to gyms like in NYC but older ones prefer just going to the park, doing some yoga, taichi, badmitten, ping pong and even just going for a stroll. All of these things cost a fortune in NYC since they are only available in indoor gyms and classes. But I will defend NYC they are trying. Ping pong is now available at 10 min a piece at Bryant Park. Nightlife and the scene are all amazing in Shanghai. Besides the usual NYC drinking and nightclubs, Shanghai lets you find internet cafes and bars, discos, ice skating, indoor skiing/snowboarding, archery, billiards, basketball, soccer, sports centers, video gaming environments for things like laser tag, FPS, DDR, and yes WoW, and the infamous karaoke. And yes, most of the sports and recreation is free and outdoor when possible. Sex trafficking is illegal and enforced in China. Just watching porn can get you arrested. Can't say the same for New York's finest. They might just watch Jenna Jameson with you. Cases of cop sodomy, rape, and rape/homocide aren't uncommon in NYC, but they are unheard of capital punishment crimes in any city in China.

Cancer is a growing epidemic in China, but it still hasn't reached the levels found in the US and many other major cities of the world. In fact, it hasn't even cracked the top ten. America is #7. Taiwan is #29.

The kids have to work hard very hard in China. This is very true and the reason it is so true is that Chinese are very very competitive in education. Shanghai is one of the leading cities in education and it shows. Think of some of the famous Chinese you know. Chances are they are Shanghainese. Yao Ming? Yup. Liu Xiang? Check. Yoyo Ma? You betcha! Even the comedic actor Steven Chow is actually Shanghainese who rose to fame in Hong Kong. It's the competitiveness that leads many Shanghainese to places like London, Paris, Rome, Moscow, and Tokyo. Notice how I didn't say NYC.

Last and I think this is the most important, unlike America that's had a common history of slavery with Europe which was only solved about 100 years ago with a Civil War, China's never in all its 5000 years of history had slavery. Servants yes. Peasants yes. Slaves never. That's actually one of the major reasons the CCP kicked out the Dalai Lama and stopped his rule of Tibet. The misconception came about from the different perception of slaves and servants between East and West. Since slaves were unpaid laborers in Europe and America, this was the general rule of thumb for slavery and slave labor. That's why in-house servants in China were considered slaves. Eunuchs who are actually advisers to the emperor were considered slaves. You can find this misconstrued information on wikipedia. The difference between a western slave and a Chinese servant is that these servants are supported by their masters not beaten and abused. They live in their own rooms and are given a position of respect in the household. Servants of the head of the household can take nearly the same disciplinary actions on children of the household. These children may grow up to consider the servants more like uncles or mentors even as they take control of the household. Some servants and members of the household can grow close enough to start a relationship and marry. Children of servants are seen as cousins to children in the household. There was also one story I happened to see about prisoners of war. Since the generals of Chinese armies all know a soldier is only following orders, defeated soldiers in battle are usually granted amnesty at the conclusion of a war and either returned to their homes or allowed to relocate to China. No colloseums or slave trades are known in China.

So talking smack about Shanghai? Fahgettaboudit!
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:37 PM
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I just coughed out my cereal laughing so hard at all the propaganda and slander against Shanghai. I'm sorry your city is filthy and filled with urine-scented homeless people while you breath in that toxic smog and listen to all the jackasses NYC is so popularly known for. I know it's hard that you wait anywhere between 7-15 minutes for your transit to finally work and that you have to pay crazy high amounts for all of that crap, but really now picking on another city? That's a new low.

Anybody who's ever been to Shanghai knows how much better it is than NYC. People don't even compare it anymore. They've moved on to comparing it with Stockholm, Tokyo, and Paris. Shanghai is cleaner, its people more civilized, its culture more refined, and its atmosphere more enjoyable. In Shanghai you don't hear loud yelling cussing pedestrians dat can' even taulk rite! In Shanghai you expect if not demand your transit to come on time every time. Rush hour 1-2 minutes regular times 2-4 minutes. In Shanghai they spend lots of money to hire round the clock servicemen to make sure there's no garbage on the streets and sidewalks. There are waste baskets and recycling bins on every corner AND one in the middle of each block. The very few homeless people you might find due to the tremendous migration to the city know enough about hygiene to be clean even if they are homeless. Yes, there are tons of cars just like in NYC. The difference is they actually know how to drive. Accident rates are much lower in Shanghai screw that in all of China than in NYC alone nevermind the rest of the US. Speaking of accidents, crime rates are also much lower, lower than even Canada and you know many regions in Canada they leave their doors open on warm summer nights. You can hop on any transportation service and use the same transit card. In NYC the metrocard is only good for MTA transit. You need mucho dinero for taxis and Greyhound and Amtrak. The people there also know the value of normal exercise. Modern generations take to gyms like in NYC but older ones prefer just going to the park, doing some yoga, taichi, badmitten, ping pong and even just going for a stroll. All of these things cost a fortune in NYC since they are only available in indoor gyms and classes. But I will defend NYC they are trying. Ping pong is now available at 10 min a piece at Bryant Park. Nightlife and the scene are all amazing in Shanghai. Besides the usual NYC drinking and nightclubs, Shanghai lets you find internet cafes and bars, discos, ice skating, indoor skiing/snowboarding, archery, billiards, basketball, soccer, sports centers, video gaming environments for things like laser tag, FPS, DDR, and yes WoW, and the infamous karaoke. And yes, most of the sports and recreation is free and outdoor when possible. Sex trafficking is illegal and enforced in China. Just watching porn can get you arrested. Can't say the same for New York's finest. They might just watch Jenna Jameson with you. Cases of cop sodomy, rape, and rape/homocide aren't uncommon in NYC, but they are unheard of capital punishment crimes in any city in China.

Cancer is a growing epidemic in China, but it still hasn't reached the levels found in the US and many other major cities of the world. In fact, it hasn't even cracked the top ten. America is #7. Taiwan is #29.

The kids have to work hard very hard in China. This is very true and the reason it is so true is that Chinese are very very competitive in education. Shanghai is one of the leading cities in education and it shows. Think of some of the famous Chinese you know. Chances are they are Shanghainese. Yao Ming? Yup. Liu Xiang? Check. Yoyo Ma? You betcha! Even the comedic actor Steven Chow is actually Shanghainese who rose to fame in Hong Kong. It's the competitiveness that leads many Shanghainese to places like London, Paris, Rome, Moscow, and Tokyo. Notice how I didn't say NYC.

Last and I think this is the most important, unlike America that's had a common history of slavery with Europe which was only solved about 100 years ago with a Civil War, China's never in all its 5000 years of history had slavery. Servants yes. Peasants yes. Slaves never. That's actually one of the major reasons the CCP kicked out the Dalai Lama and stopped his rule of Tibet. The misconception came about from the different perception of slaves and servants between East and West. Since slaves were unpaid laborers in Europe and America, this was the general rule of thumb for slavery and slave labor. That's why in-house servants in China were considered slaves. Eunuchs who are actually advisers to the emperor were considered slaves. You can find this misconstrued information on wikipedia. The difference between a western slave and a Chinese servant is that these servants are supported by their masters not beaten and abused. They live in their own rooms and are given a position of respect in the household. Servants of the head of the household can take nearly the same disciplinary actions on children of the household. These children may grow up to consider the servants more like uncles or mentors even as they take control of the household. Some servants and members of the household can grow close enough to start a relationship and marry. Children of servants are seen as cousins to children in the household. There was also one story I happened to see about prisoners of war. Since the generals of Chinese armies all know a soldier is only following orders, defeated soldiers in battle are usually granted amnesty at the conclusion of a war and either returned to their homes or allowed to relocate to China. No colloseums or slave trades are known in China.

So talking smack about Shanghai? Fahgettaboudit!
I suppose you mean the spitting.
Or perhaps you mean Chinese opera, which some would says is as painful to the ears as loogies are to the eyes.

"Shanghai lets you find internet cafes"
Ah yes, widespread "Internet cafes" - the quintessential sign of a country with one foot still in the third world.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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This flaming troll forgets a little detail.
Shanghai is within an authoritarian state, which is reason enough to stop comparing it to NYC. There's simply no comparison between the two.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:01 PM
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This flaming troll forgets a little detail.
Shanghai is within an authoritarian state, which is reason enough to stop comparing it to NYC. There's simply no comparison between the two.

the post about how great Shanghai is vs. NYC was authorized and approved by the Central Committee and found to be not to dangerous to the people's spirit before it was posted at the internet cafe serving genuine Storebux Sanka latte.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Conclusion, New York City is much worse than Shanghai. Much much worse.
Oh, yeah?

China

The problem with Shanghai is that it's in China. I'll stick with New York.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Windermere,FL
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Tokyo trumps both Shanghai and nyc
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