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Old 09-25-2015, 07:12 AM
 
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I'm interested in this...

We're in NYC, and considering moving Upstate - but don't want to have to buy a car.

I've looked at things like Walkscore, which is some help - but they seem to think I'm more interested in having a local coffee shop than a local supermarket. There seems to be a fundamental assumption that of *course* I drive to work, the supermarket, and the mall... they think I just want to be able to stroll to coffee shops, bookstores and boutiques (oh, and sure, pick up milk and bread, but not staples...)

I'm perfectly willing to take transit (I expect transit...) to some things - especially places I don't go routinely (shopping mall or district, theatre and museum, even that hospital, as long as the transit is reasonable) - but I do expect to be able to buy food locally. (We both work from home, so a commute is not an issue.)

I've basically been looking at reasonably large cities, since some smaller places seem to have some services, even a wonderfully walkable neighborhood - but no way to get to that theatre - or hospital - and get home easily (especially at night...) and that won't work.

But I'm interested in seeing what people have to suggest.
The only places Upstate with reliable transit tend to be college towns, and the only one I can think of that really has a good blend of density, walkability, access to both local and regional transit is Ithaca. TCAT takes you to the mall, Wegmans, hospital, etc, Short Line can take you to NYC, and the food co-op is within walking distance of downtown.

I am not familiar with Buffalo, but I do know that Albany and Rochester are suburban and sprawling enough to be challenging without cars, and the smaller cities in
the Hudson Valley do not offer reliable transit.

You can get by in a place like Red Hook if you are within walking distance of the Hannaford but getting out of town presents its own challenge.
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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The only places Upstate with reliable transit tend to be college towns, and the only one I can think of that really has a good blend of density, walkability, access to both local and regional transit is Ithaca. TCAT takes you to the mall, Wegmans, hospital, etc, Short Line can take you to NYC, and the food co-op is within walking distance of downtown.

I am not familiar with Buffalo, but I do know that Albany and Rochester are suburban and sprawling enough to be challenging without cars, and the smaller cities in
the Hudson Valley do not offer reliable transit.

You can get by in a place like Red Hook if you are within walking distance of the Hannaford but getting out of town presents its own challenge.
With the bigger areas, the cities and first ring suburbs tend to be the best bets. This is especially the case if you are near a major street or in select college/university neighborhoods.

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Old 09-25-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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Here is a list of transit systems in the state: https://www.nytransit.org/index.php?...45b78685e_8235
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Old 09-25-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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The only places Upstate with reliable transit tend to be college towns, and the only one I can think of that really has a good blend of density, walkability, access to both local and regional transit is Ithaca. TCAT takes you to the mall, Wegmans, hospital, etc, Short Line can take you to NYC, and the food co-op is within walking distance of downtown.

I am not familiar with Buffalo, but I do know that Albany and Rochester are suburban and sprawling enough to be challenging without cars, and the smaller cities in
the Hudson Valley do not offer reliable transit.

You can get by in a place like Red Hook if you are within walking distance of the Hannaford but getting out of town presents its own challenge.
Albany seems to be pretty urban based on what I've seen on google street view
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Old 09-27-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Many towns in upstate are walkable, I see many people walking along the towns on US 20A. That said, unless u are living in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, NYC, or other large cities in Upstate, a car will be necessary. Even a car is a convenience in the other NY cities not named NYC
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Old 09-27-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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Many towns in upstate are walkable, I see many people walking along the towns on US 20A. That said, unless u are living in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, NYC, or other large cities in Upstate, a car will be necessary. Even a car is a convenience in the other NY cities not named NYC
I think what is nice is that you can find walkable areas, but you can still have/use a car if you want to. With that said, I'm just wondering about what are some areas in Upstate NY where you don't have to or would hardly have to leave in order to do everything you need to on foot or through public transportation. When I asked this, I was thinking in terms of neighborhoods or small cities/towns/villages.
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Old 09-27-2015, 08:44 PM
 
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I think what is nice is that you can find walkable areas, but you can still have/use a car if you want to. With that said, I'm just wondering about what are some areas in Upstate NY where you don't have to or would hardly have to leave in order to do everything you need to on foot or through public transportation. When I asked this, I was thinking in terms of neighborhoods or small cities/towns/villages.
Well towns in Dutchess County, Orange County, and Ulster County have some towns if you consider those Upstate. Then mainly the suburbs such as Saratoga Springs, Amherst/Williamsville etc all really are walkable to everything nearby.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:45 PM
 
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Another area could potentially work is Genesee Street/Downtown Auburn. It has a Wegmans in the middle of Downtown, with restaurants, a men's clothing store, the Auburn Public Theater, Schweinfurth Art Center, a library, a bookstore, a YMCA, other boutiques/stores and services. Auburn Downtown BID
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:33 PM
 
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I think Canandaigua fits the description well too. It has two grocery stores downtown and 2 on the outer skirts of the city, a shoe store, clothes store downtown, restaurants, library, YMCA, music stores, furniture store, 3 museums with Sonnenberg Gardens, The Ontarion County Historical Society, Granger Homestead and Carriage Museuem, walkable to the lake area, many downtown events such as wine walks. And it has good public transportation around the city.
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:07 AM
 
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