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O man so the past 2 years how did the drivers on the thruway survive every Sunday? The stress on the restaurant’s. Only in nys can The significant strain from a restaurant closed for 10 hours on a Sunday result in a bill.
Chick fil a has never opened on a Sunday end of story. Your not giving them more money your forcing them out. This bill will prevent them from operating at any other new location end of story. The politicians know that. End of argument. Come on.
O man so the past 2 years how did the thruway survive every Sunday?
Chick fil a has never opened on a Sunday end of story. Your not giving them more money your forcing them out. This bill will prevent them from operating at any other new location end of story. The politicians know that. End of argument. Come on.
This still doesn't make sense, as why is this bill only for Thruway and Port Authority locations? Those aren't the only locations within the state. It is because they are attached to a state government authority and in turn, the state likely wants to maximize the potential of the service areas. That isn't hard to see or understand. Sure, you can find a couple of reps that say things to appeal to a segment of their constituents, but they know that there is an economic bottom line to maximize these locations. Hence, the bill asking to extend hours, not to decrease them or to eliminate CFA from those locations. As mentioned, you even have a service area like the Chittenango location, where CFA is essentially the only legitimate option, as it only has a Starbucks as the other option. The sign states that CFA is closed on Sundays and in turn, you may have those traveling skip it on Sundays for that reason(for those not familiar, two exits heading west you have some places at the Syracuse/East Syracuse exit on Thompson Road(McDonald's, BK, a couple of Dunkin's, Byrne Dairy, etc.) and a McDonald's at the Canastota exit heading east).
A state government can not and better not come to a company on private property and force then open on a Sunday. So that point in you words “makes no sense”
Plus the rest stop you mention has a applegreen.
Honestly you opened my eyes we should force these food places open 24/7. People drive overnight we need to make sure they are fed driving through the tri state. It will assist with unemployment in the state and generate even more payroll tax and state income tax for the state.
Also notice you said it was blatantly for revenue now it’s likely.
A state government can not and better not come to a company on private property and force then open on a Sunday. So that point in you words “makes no sense”
Plus the rest stop you mention has a applegreen.
Honestly you opened my eyes we should force these food places open 24/7. People drive overnight we need to make sure they are fed driving through the tri state. It will assist with unemployment in the state and generate even more payroll tax and state income tax for the state.
Again, I'm talking about the bill proposal. Something still has to be passed in order to take effect.
So, given that this is the first hike in 14 years, there must be a reason behind it, like the CFA bill proposal($). Especially, when the revenue comes from those that actually take the Thruway versus being spread across state residents.
So 20 or so chick fil a’s open on a Sunday will generate enough money to matter ? If that’s the case this company is a miracle worker. Maybe they can help pay off the federal governments debt if we do this nation wide ?
Also do you really think a .02 cent increase or a .10 cent increase in tolls is that bad in 14 years ?
We went from blatantly to likely to there must be a reason for this bill
Applegreen is a convenient mart. And? Sounds like other massive companies ? Cumberland farms , Wawa, 7-11 , bucees and royal farms . I think they know how to serve a everyday commuter.
Nyc banned Walmart and not target also. There’s always reasons but let’s Blame traffic like they say
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money vs politics...
Aren't the rest stop business concessions that pay NYS for the space? Or is NYS the concessionaire that gets a piece of the action? (flat fee or revenue sharing?)
our brain-trust government at work...
does anyone really think NOT ONE of the morons in Albany knew Chik-fil-A was closed on Sunday? For this to come up long after the contracts were awarded indicates there are other factors at play.
toll increases...
ANY increase *should* be illegal. The tolls themselves are not valid. The thruway was built with bond money. The bonds were issued on the PROMISE that the tolls would disappear when the bonds were paid off. That was in the 1990s. Thirty years later, all we have are constant increases. All to save the Erie Canal (and keep a useless government bureaucracy alive).
NYS is a corrupt cesspool of politics. Everything is about money and making sure it gets funneled to the "right" friends/family/donors. Look close enough and I'll be this whole CFA problem is because either someone didn't get paid off, or the wrong person got paid off.
money vs politics...
Aren't the rest stop business concessions that pay NYS for the space? Or is NYS the concessionaire that gets a piece of the action? (flat fee or revenue sharing?)
our brain-trust government at work...
does anyone really think NOT ONE of the morons in Albany knew Chik-fil-A was closed on Sunday? For this to come up long after the contracts were awarded indicates there are other factors at play.
toll increases...
ANY increase *should* be illegal. The tolls themselves are not valid. The thruway was built with bond money. The bonds were issued on the PROMISE that the tolls would disappear when the bonds were paid off. That was in the 1990s. Thirty years later, all we have are constant increases. All to save the Erie Canal (and keep a useless government bureaucracy alive).
NYS is a corrupt cesspool of politics. Everything is about money and making sure it gets funneled to the "right" friends/family/donors. Look close enough and I'll be this whole CFA problem is because either someone didn't get paid off, or the wrong person got paid off.
The first part is another thing I asked in terms of the contract between the state and Applegreen. They should have known that CFA being closed on Sunday would be something to consider, unless they felt that they would bring in enough revenue for 6 days to where Sunday wouldn’t matter.
As for the post above, again, as one rep stated, it is about options on that day, which would likely increase revenue. How much, who knows?
As for the tolls, the catch 22 is that it is paid by those that use it versus having no tolls and having taxpayers, even those that use it, pay for it. Even if the tolls are removed, funding for maintenance would have to come from somewhere. In this case, those that use it pay and in that case, that isn’t put on state residents, but includes those from outside of the state that use it.
The options at chick fil a is chicken and wait for it…chicken. Burger King has chicken sandwiches. It’s not options.
We mentioned the contract. The thruway and applegreen were fine with them being closed Sunday. Applegreen is a business they took it into account partnering with chick fil a.
Also applegreen as a store has so many more options which should cover that issue.
toll increases...
ANY increase *should* be illegal. The tolls themselves are not valid. The thruway was built with bond money. The bonds were issued on the PROMISE that the tolls would disappear when the bonds were paid off. That was in the 1990s. Thirty years later, all we have are constant increases. All to save the Erie Canal (and keep a useless government bureaucracy alive).
NYS is a corrupt cesspool of politics. Everything is about money and making sure it gets funneled to the "right" friends/family/donors. Look close enough and I'll be this whole CFA problem is because either someone didn't get paid off, or the wrong person got paid off.
NYS spent how many millions to install the electronic toll cameras?? The operational costs have to be higher than when there were people stationed at the booths. Complete waste of money that will never have a ROI. They should have at least had a free zone between Buffalo and Utica. That would show how serious the state is to build whatever their latest scheme is between the cities. Hydrogen something?
Plus, I hate that every product delivered to Rochester has the cost of tolls built into the shipping cost.
This happens all the time, in terms of bills, as they may get formed for other reasons, like what I mentioned many times on here. You may have issues with an aspect of something related to a bill, but may form it for other bigger picture reasons. Think of the Cannabis legislation as an example of this.
I mean you are right sometimes. when someone doesn’t like what someone is doing weather it’s Texas or chick fil a you make up your own rules and force them to comply.
Off topic but we’ll be arresting bus drivers for doing their hired task.
“ Adams issued an executive order Wednesday requiring charter bus companies alert the city’s Emergency Management Office 32 hours before arriving in the Big Apple
Failure to heed the new rules could result in criminal charges, fines, lawsuits “and even buses being impounded,” Adams said.
Maybe we will arrest chick fil a operators for not opening on Sundays ?
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