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Old 09-09-2011, 12:35 AM
 
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Do you say "MAR-EE-LAND" or "MAR-uh-lund" for the state just north of Virginia?
What would his/her answer prove?

Shouldn't you be asking him if some pronounces it MAR-REE-LAND and he/she pronounces it MAR-uh-lund, do you "correct" them?
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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It wasn't her hometown, btw. She was just a big mouth, uneducated redneck defending Dixie. Sigh.
How do you know she is uneducated? This is so rude.

You sir are very presumptuous.

My husband, and 8th generation Ashville son pronounces it Ashvull.
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:14 AM
 
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Hilarious.

The only people who say things like "vul" are people born/raised in the south. Not that's there's anything wrong with that....

They just do not annunciate for some odd reason. And if they do..well, it's still with a southern accent.

If you're not from the area, you are not expected nor required to start saying "vul-this" and "vul-that".

The lady was ruuuude!



Btw, VILLE 4 LIFE!!
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Shouldn't you be asking him if some pronounces it MAR-REE-LAND and he/she pronounces it MAR-uh-lund, do you "correct" them?
Actually my qeustion was to not the OP but the other poster who claimed that "VILLE" is the ONLY pronunciation. At the time I erroneously thought they were one and the same person, and it was too late to correct when I realized it.

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The only people who say things like "vul" are people born/raised in the south.
They just do not annunciate for some odd reason.
The word is enunciate, not annunciate. [particularly ironic coming from someone who calls himself "Senior Mumbler"!] And what is your point in this underhanded dig:

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And if they do..well, it's still with a southern accent.
MANY regional accents in the US do not enunciate strictly according to the American Heritage Dictionary. I'd be careful about where you throw stones.

I agree that the woman was rude in the original post. But you're on dangerous territory going to anyplace in the US with a definitive regional accent and telling them they should be saying "X" instead.
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Old 09-12-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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How do you know she is uneducated?

She was uneducated because she did not know that you should wash your grease laden hair and not wear filthy, food stained clothing. She was uneducated because her stretchy shorts (on her 300+ pound body) were being eaten by her crotch and she didn’t care or notice. She was uneducated because she said things like “People like you ain’t got no right to be sayin’ our words like ya’ll doâ€. Our words. Yes. She used the phrase “Our wordsâ€, as if her piggish self owned the English language.

Shall I go on? She was uneducated.

She should not have been giving out grammar lessons. Believe me.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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[font=Arial]She was uneducated because she did not know that you should wash your grease laden hair and not wear filthy, food stained clothing. She was uneducated because her stretchy shorts (on her 300+ pound body) were being eaten by her crotch and she didn’t care or notice. She was uneducated because she said things like “People like you ain’t got no right to be sayin’ our words like ya’ll do”. Our words. Yes. She used the phrase “Our words”, as if her piggish self owned the English language.
y'all is a contraction of "you all". I'm not sure what ya'll is a contraction of... *** ball?

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She was happy that I was happy with North Carolina. She asked what has been my favorite place to visit.

...I was floored. She seemed so nice. She turned witch-like very fast.
As we say 'round these parts... your story sounds fishy. She seemed so nice despite being an uneducated, greasy haired, 300 lb, camel-toed behemoth? Which was she? Seemingly nice or apparently the epitome of southern white trash? you can't have it both ways... your entire story lacks the quality of being based in fact when it comes right down to it.

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Just frustrated with rude people today.
yeah, I can dig it. perhaps you should reflect on that comment a little. do a little meditation...
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:37 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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And what is your point in this underhanded dig:
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And if they do..well, it's still with a southern accent.
My bad on the spelling, but the point is, no matter how much one enunciates their words, a southern accent is a southern accent.

It's like saying, "Oh it's not fried chicken, it's fraaad chicken!"
It's the same goddamn thing! Who cares!

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I agree that the woman was rude in the original post. But you're on dangerous territory going to anyplace in the US with a definitive regional accent and telling them they should be saying "X" instead.
I get your point, but is the OP not entitled to his own regional dialect? If I read the post correctly, she did take the first swing...
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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y'all is a contraction of "you all". I'm not sure what ya'll is a contraction of... *** ball?

Y’all/ ya’ll…haha! Doesn’t really matter. That’s like our Northern friends trying to give a correct contraction of “you’s” or is it “you’se”…either way, both are slang and not proper phrases. Never got a spelling test on “those” contractions


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As we say 'round these parts... your story sounds fishy. She seemed so nice despite being an uneducated, greasy haired, 300 lb, camel-toed behemoth? Which was she? Seemingly nice or apparently the epitome of southern white trash? you can't have it both ways... your entire story lacks the quality of being based in fact when it comes right down to it.
Meh. You can be nice and uneducated (and filthy dirty) at the same time. You can be 300+ pounds and be nice. And yes, I know many that some would consider to be “white trash” that are very, VERY nice. So, of course you can have it both ways. Turns out, this lady wasn’t really nice.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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It's like saying, "Oh it's not fried chicken, it's fraaad chicken!"
It's the same goddamn thing! Who cares!
This is a great example. Thank you!
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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I get Concord. I don't get how the pronunciation of Iredell came about. Drives my husband nuts.

Not everyone from NC is as obnoxious as crotch pant eater. I was in Winston-Salem last weekend and discussing my trip to the Outer Banks from a native. She did not once correct me. I did pick up a few of her pronunciations. It was interesting how different their were from my family in Wallburg. Now I wonder how to say them! I'm sure my cousin who has lived in Hertford for the last few years will have a different pronunciation. As long as you can figure out what town/city/village y'all are talking about, who cares? It's a word! There's way bigger issues in the world right now. Like do I have ice cream for dinner or do I actually make dinner.......that's a tough call!
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