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I wouldn't go quite that far on governor. The governor of South Carolina really isn't that great. In fact, most people I know there hate her.
Well you may want to get to know more people, as she is very popular and has very good crossover appeal. I am pretty sure the folks in NC would do a trade in a heartbeat. I know we would here in Florida.
The main difference between SC and NC is Raleigh has a large biotech industry and Charlotte has the banking and the skycrapers. Charlotte and NC State downtowns aren't much bigger than SC's main 3, the main difference is the much larger suburban areas with more duplication of malls and big box stores and chain restaurants.
SC also has the only commercialized beach w/ Mrytle beach.
I think SC main cities have cooler downtowns than Charlotte, Raleigh and the two triad cities. I do like Wilmington's downtown.
I think Charleston, MB, and HIlton head are better vacation spots as far as entertainment and eating out go than the NC beach areas.
The main difference between SC and NC is Raleigh has a large biotech industry and Charlotte has the banking and the skycrapers. Charlotte and NC State downtowns aren't much bigger than SC's main 3, the main difference is the much larger suburban areas with more duplication of malls and big box stores and chain restaurants.
There's no city in SC that has a downtown that even remotely resembles Uptown Charlotte.
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SC also has the only commercialized beach w/ Mrytle beach.
Certainly true, thank god.
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I think SC main cities have cooler downtowns than Charlotte, Raleigh and the two triad cities. I do like Wilmington's downtown.
Umm, I'd take almost any of the mentioned NC downtowns over Spartanburg, and most over Colombia.
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I think Charleston, MB, and HIlton head are better vacation spots as far as entertainment and eating out go than the NC beach areas.
Good restaurants are few and far between in MB proper.
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Umm, I'd take any NC downtown over Spartanburg, and most over Colombia.
I'd take downtown Spartanburg before several downtowns of comparable size in NC (Gastonia, Hickory, Fayetteville, etc.).
Colombia is a country in South America. The downtown of Columbia, SC has been undergoing a renaissance for the past several years so if you haven't been lately, you owe it to yourself to check it out before making such a statement. It certainly matches up well with its NC peers (Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Durham) and has a similar layout to Raleigh.
I agree that no downtown in SC remotely resembles Uptown Charlotte, and on the flip side no downtown in NC remotely resembles Charleston. Wilmington and Asheville are in the same vein but certainly not on the same level.
I'd take downtown Spartanburg before several downtowns of comparable size in NC (Gastonia, Hickory, Fayetteville, etc.).
Colombia is a country in South America. The downtown of Columbia, SC has been undergoing a renaissance for the past several years so if you haven't been lately, you owe it to yourself to check it out before making such a statement. It certainly matches up well with its NC peers (Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Durham) and has a similar layout to Raleigh.
I agree that no downtown in SC remotely resembles Uptown Charlotte, and on the flip side no downtown in NC remotely resembles Charleston. Wilmington and Asheville are in the same vein but certainly not on the same level.
So glad the spelling police out bright and early this morning.
Spartanburg County is about 300,000 population...considerably larger than Gaston or Catawba Counties (Gastonia and Hickory), so I'm not sure thats a fair comparison. Its about the same size as Forsyth County (Winston-Salem) and Buncombe County (Asheville). Downtown Spartanburg can't hold a candle to Winston-Salem or Asheville.
I can't believe that Spartanburg is being held up as one of the downtown examples in SC and nary a mention of Greenville. Spartanburg rarely even gets any respect on the Greenville/Spartanburg sub-forum on C-D.
Greenville has one of the best downtowns for a city of its size in the Southeast, if not the country. When I was living there, 2008-2012, we were constantly reading news article of groups coming from all over the country to take a lesson on what Greenville did to "get it right." Greenville's downtown is a principle destination with its mix of restaurants, shopping, hotels and numerous special events. They've also developed a lot of residential units in downtown, many with unique architectural details and character.
It's no secret that I love W-S and its downtown is improving every day, but I'd vote for Greenville's downtown in a head-to-head vote.
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I can't believe that Spartanburg is being held up as one of the downtown examples examples in SC and nary a mention of Greenville. Spartanburg rarely even gets any respect on the Greenville/Spartanburg sub-forum on C-D.
Greenville has one of the best downtowns for a city of its size in the Southeast, if not the country. When I was living there, 2008-2012, we were constantly reading news article of groups coming from all over the country to take a lesson on what Greenville did to "get it right." Greenville's downtown is a principle destination with its mix of restaurants, shopping, hotels and numerous special events. They've also developed a lot of residential units in downtown, many with unique architectural details and character.
It's no secret that I love W-S and its downtown is improving every day, but I'd vote for Greenville's downtown in a head-to-head vote.
You're totally correct about Greenville and I completely agree. I also think Simpsonvillian was including G'ville when he mentioned "SC's main cities".
The biggest difference to me comes down to the airports, where SC is no match for NC. Charlotte-Douglas and RDU alone always carry many more commercial flights directly to cities across America and beyond than what Greenville-Spartanburg, Columbia, Charleston or Myrtle Beach handle even at their seasonal peaks.
So glad the spelling police out bright and early this morning.
As a native SC'er, it really is a bit irritating to see the city's name misspelled. It's the same as Columbia University or the District of Columbia, which people never seem to spell "Colombia."
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Spartanburg County is about 300,000 population...considerably larger than Gaston or Catawba Counties (Gastonia and Hickory), so I'm not sure thats a fair comparison. Its about the same size as Forsyth County (Winston-Salem) and Buncombe County (Asheville). Downtown Spartanburg can't hold a candle to Winston-Salem or Asheville.
Not sure why you're using county stats here; Spartanburg County is over 800 sq mi; Gaston, Catawba, and Forsyth Counties are in the 350-400 sq mi range while Buncombe County is 660 sq mi. Looking at the most relevant metrics here such as urbanized area and MSA, Spartanburg's NC peers would be cities like Gastonia, Hickory, High Point, and Fayetteville and Spartanburg's downtown is more built-up and offers more than those cities' downtowns (it's a little closer with Fayetteville, but I think Spartanburg edges it out).
Not sure why you're using county stats here; Spartanburg County is over 800 sq mi; Gaston, Catawba, and Forsyth Counties are in the 350-400 sq mi range while Buncombe County is 660 sq mi. Looking at the most relevant metrics here such as urbanized area and MSA, Spartanburg's NC peers would be cities like Gastonia, Hickory, High Point, and Fayetteville and Spartanburg's downtown is more built-up and offers more than those cities' downtowns (it's a little closer with Fayetteville, but I think Spartanburg edges it out).
Because most of the county's population is clustered around Spartanburg and if SC annexation laws were as "liberal" as NC's laws were for decades then Spartanburg would have a population more like Asheville or Winston-Salem. It serves a far more populated trade area than its relatively small population would indicate.
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