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Very surprised to see the negative comments about SC... and the premise for the "thread" seems to simply be so folks can troll our gentle neighbors to the South. Shameful, IMO.
I love SC myself. I love their history, their culture, the lowcountry, the upstate. I love their beaches, their food, their people and I think they have the coolest flag of any State.
I'd wager that those bashing SC have never lived there, so that'd it make it business as usual at city-data... a forum for people who specialize in talking **** about places they've been.
There is no county in SC that Can even come close to Mecklenburg, or Wake and even Guilford is bigger then anything in SC and SC really cannot claim Charlotte any more the Cabbarus county can claim Charlotte, they are both exurbs..
Mecklenburg and Wake, yes. Guilford County really just benefits from the way that the county lines are drawn since it includes both Greensboro and High Point. It's pretty much the same as Columbia and Lexington or Charleston and any one of its suburbs (Summerville, Mt. Pleasant, etc.) being located in the same county, but due to geography--namely, bodies of water constituting county boundaries--they are not.
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It isn't the rural black counties like SC has that make NC blue. Its Wake, Guilford, Mecklenburg, Cumberland, Durham etc.
You have a point there. Pretty much all of the more urban counties in NC went blue, whereas for SC, it was just Columbia and Charleston.
You have a point there. Pretty much all of the more urban counties in NC went blue, whereas for SC, it was just Columbia and Charleston.
Not just that Charleston was not that blue in comparison to the NC counties. Charleston went for Obama 54-45%, Guilford went 59-40%, Mecklanburg went 62-38% Wake was 57-42%, Cumberland was 59-41%, Durham went by a whoping 76-24% margin, and even Asheville dragged the very conservative other parts of Buncombe county into the blue by a lot. Even Winston (forsyth county) was more Democratic at 55-44%. NC cities are more liberal then Charleston. The only heavily Democratic city in all of SC is Columbia.
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Not just that Charleston was not that blue in comparison to the NC counties. Charleston went for Obama 54-45%, Guilford went 59-40%, Mecklanburg went 62-38% Wake was 57-42%, Cumberland was 59-41%, Durham went by a whoping 76-24% margin, and even Asheville dragged the very conservative other parts of Buncombe county into the blue by a lot. Even Winston (forsyth county) was more Democratic at 55-44%. NC cities are more numerous and more liberal then those in SC.
They are more Democratic but not necessarily more liberal. There's a difference. Plus we have to see if this is a trend that can be sustained because just like everywhere else, Republicans swept into power in NC during the midterms.
And in Charleston's defense, when SC had the gay marriage ban on the ballot a couple of years ago, the county as a whole voted for it but the city of Charleston itself did not.
They are more Democratic but not necessarily more liberal. There's a difference. Plus we have to see if this is a trend that can be sustained because just like everywhere else, Republicans swept into power in NC during the midterms.
And in Charleston's defense, when SC had the gay marriage ban on the ballot a couple of years ago, the county as a whole voted for it but the city of Charleston itself did not.
I think it depends on the city, for example I would say Asheville and Durham especially are very liberal and more liberal then anything I have seen in South Carolina I seriously doubt either would ever elect a Republican to much of anything unless they were swamped by other conservative counties/areas. Fayetteville on the other hand not so much.
I think it depends on the city, for example I would say Asheville and Durham especially are very liberal and more liberal then anything I have seen in South Carolina I seriously doubt either would ever elect a Republican to much of anything unless they were swamped by other conservative counties/areas. Fayetteville on the other hand not so much.
SC residents pay a median $689 in property tax, compared to $1209 in North Carolina. There are no estate or inheritance taxes in South Carolina, whereas North Carolina has an inheritance tax pegged to the federal level.
(which is puzzling to me about NC; the largest cities aren't actually along rivers).
The rivers in NC aren't good for transportation, which combined with no large natural port compared to Charleston or Norfolk, meant no large cities developed along them nor the coast, Wilmington being a minor exception. You can trace when rail and highway lines came to a particular city by the subsequent population explosion in the census.
It's funny how people can judge another state by only numbers and not actually living there. I have lived in both states...I live in NC, but of course I love SC (born and raised). Every place has it's pluses and negatives. I'll keep it at that. Just because places are different doesn't make it better or worst than another place lol
According to a new Gallup poll, North Carolina ranks 21st in the percentage of people who identify as conservative, 29th in the percentage who identify as liberal. South Carolina ranks 14th in the percentage who identify as conservative, 44th in the percentage who identify as liberal. On this scale, NC is as about conservative as Indiana, Missouri, Kentucky, and Ohio, about as liberal as Montana, Virginia, Iowa, and West Virginia. Mississippi, Utah, and Wyoming identify as conservative more than any other states; D.C., Massachusetts, Hawaii, and Vermont the most liberal.
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