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Anti-slavery was not a liberal cause, Republicans pushed for anti-slavery, and republicans pushed the voting rights acts of the 1960's through against democrat opposition. Anti-slavery was the correct cause, thus not a liberal cause.
health care is not denied to anyone in the USA based on sexual orientation. bzzzt, try again.
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Well, let's examine a few liberal causes from the past--anti-slavery, women's suffrage, mentally and physically disabled rights, child labor advocacy--there were no victims among these causes, right? And there are no victims of the actions to deny basic health care and domestic rights to a loving, life-time partner (regardless of sexual orientation), right? I mean, as long as YOU aren't the victim, there's no injustice, right?
Anti-slavery was not a liberal cause, Republicans pushed for anti-slavery, and republicans pushed the voting rights acts of the 1960's through against democrat opposition. Anti-slavery was the correct cause, thus not a liberal cause.
The Republicans were a radically liberal party at their formation in the 1850s. But it's never as simple as a liberal/conservative dichotomy. SOME liberal Republicans and northern Democrats pushed for Civil Rights together against the opposition of Southern Democrats. But once LBJ, a Democratic President, signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Republicans launched a "Southern strategy," converting southern conservative Democrats to the Republican party. It was a HUGE political re-alignment and made the Republican Party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt unrecognizable.
This is basic, recent history.
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health care is not denied to anyone in the USA based on sexual orientation. bzzzt, try again.
Domestic partner benefits (including health care) will be and are being curtailed by this law.
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Anti-slavery was not a liberal cause, Republicans pushed for anti-slavery, and republicans pushed the voting rights acts of the 1960's through against democrat opposition. Anti-slavery was the correct cause, thus not a liberal cause.
health care is not denied to anyone in the USA based on sexual orientation. bzzzt, try again.
Since you live in New England, where are you getting your information about the repercussions of Amendment one?
It was Quakers who pushed the anti-slavery movement. I'm not even going to bother with the rest, other than to remind you that the Democrats held the White House from 1960 - 68.
Uh....what political party was Abraham Lincoln a member of?
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Since you live in New England, where are you getting your information about the repercussions of Amendment one?
It was Quakers who pushed the anti-slavery movement. I'm not even going to bother with the rest, other than to remind you that the Democrats held the White House from 1960 - 68.
Uh....what political party was Abraham Lincoln a member of?
Come on man. You realize the Republicans of 1860 are not the same as the Republicans on 2012, don't you? Lincoln's Republicans wanted infrastructure improvements and an end to slavery. Neither of which is particularly conservative.
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Uh....what political party was Abraham Lincoln a member of?
Do you really think that the anti-slavery movement started with the Republicans? Are you also unaware that the Republicans formed from the Know-Nothing party & shared members with it.
Lincoln originally did not intend to free any slaves. Did you notice that the Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave in the Union states?
No, that is just another canard put out by liberals to whitewash their own sordid history. Read the Republican Party Platforms of 1860 and 1960, those are much closer to today's republican party than of today's democrat party. Sorry, you can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.
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Come on man. You realize the Republicans of 1860 are not the same as the Republicans on 2012, don't you? Lincoln's Republicans wanted infrastructure improvements and an end to slavery. Neither of which is particularly conservative.
I notice you refused to answer my simple questin as to what political party president Abraham Lincoln was a member of. More liberal whitewashing.
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Do you really think that the anti-slavery movement started with the Republicans? Are you also unaware that the Republicans formed from the Know-Nothing party & shared members with it.
Lincoln originally did not intend to free any slaves. Did you notice that the Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave in the Union states?
Liberals will never see the enlightened side, not until they grow up out of their juvenile thinking patterns. Just so you know, Lincoln was a Republican, and the Civil War, under his presidency ended Slavery.
Again, the Quakers drove the anti-slavery movement going back as far as the 18th century.
FYI, I am an Independant. The snide remarks from you & your cohorts are not winning me to your side. Amendment One went beyond gay marriage.
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