Marylanders moving to Virginia in Droves (Chesapeake, Arlington: 2014, living in, wealthiest)

[saganista]

Originally Posted by vicnice

Nope, but I think it had something to do with PG. Either way, MoCo costs mo' than anywhere in VA all things being equal.

The objection has been over the word "moderately" as used with regard to a comparison of Monthgomery to Fairfax counties. Have you meanwhile done a comparison to the so-called People's Republic of Arlington? That too is a county in Virginia you may recall.

[Jayess1]

But of course, there's nothing there...
"Maryland Pepco, BGE Customers Will See Bill For 24 Hours Of Lost Storm Income In Form Of Bill Stabilization Adjustment"

[ViennaSausages]

Here's a list of the recent Fairfax County bond issues put to ballot vote (which is what I was referring to)

Nov. 8, 2011 school bonds measure - passed
Nov. 2, 2010 transportation bonds measure - passed
Nov. 3, 2009 school bonds measure - passed
Nov. 5, 2008 parks/facilities bond measure - passed
Nov. 7, 2006 parks/facilities bond measure - passed
Nov. 7, 2006 public safety bond measure - passed
Nov. 8, 2005 school bond measure - passed
Nov. 2, 2004 Human services bond meaure - passed
Nov. 2, 2004 Parks bond meaure - passed
Nov. 2, 2004 Public library services bond meaure - passed
Nov. 2, 2004 Transportation bond meaure - passed
Nov. 4, 2003 school bond measure - passed
Nov. 5, 2002 Parks bond meaure - passed
Nov. 5, 2002 public safety bond measure - passed
Nov. 6, 2001 bond measure - passed
Nov. 2, 1999 school bond measure - passed
Nov. 3, 1998 public safety bond measure - passed
Nov. 3, 1998 Parks bond meaure - passed
Nov. 5, 1997 school bond measure - passed
Nov. 7, 1995 school bond measure - passed
Nov. 2, 1993 school bond measure - passed

That is as far back as I go as far as being in Virginia. So on Fairfax County bond issues, we have a 100% pass rate.

The ONLY bond measure to fail was the 2002 regional referendum on the NoVa regional transportation plan. That one went down. But that one was put to a vote of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Loudoun, PW, and the other independent cities in NoVa.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by ViennaSausages

That is as far back as I go as far as being in Virginia.

Then you should not have engaged and then re-engaged in such hyperbole as to use words like "NEVER" and "EVERY". The qualification above is NOT contained in the definition of those words, and your statements were therefore WRONG as the result, as various posters have pointed out.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by saganista

Dear me. I agree that Botetourt County does not belong in the discussion, and for the same reasons that PGBefore answering, consider that the American Revolution was financed almost entirely by debt. It took fifty years to pay that off as well.

We'll be paying for Iraq for awhile. Giving tax cuts while fighting two wars is an extreme example of living it up now while mortgaging the future. But that's how we roll.

[ViennaSausages]

Originally Posted by saganista

Then you should not have engaged and then re-engaged in such hyperbole as to use words like "NEVER" and "EVERY". The qualification above is NOT contained in the definition of those words, and your statements were therefore WRONG as the result, as various posters have pointed out.

Actually, nobody has provided an example of where the voters voted down a Fairfax bond issue. The statement "various posters" is wrong as well. TE made reference to an example. However, this was rejected by the Board and never placed to a vote. Note, I said the word "taxpayers". Most anyone will take that to mean the general populace and not the Board of Supervisors. So, there has yet to be an example where a county bond issue has been defeated.

Since you're such the know-it-all, lets see how far back it takes to find a county bond issue that was rejected by Fairfax taxpayers.

[ViennaSausages]

Originally Posted by saganista

There are different tax burdens everywhere, but it's impossible to discuss anywhere versus everywhere. Fairfax and Montgomery are two comparable counties for which ample data are available. Each of them is the most populous county in its state. They are in the same SMSA. They are in fact neighbors across a state line. More unrelated background noise is filtered out in using these two counties as examples than perhaps any other pair. Comparing Botetourt County to PG County would certainly not make as much sense.
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You just said that " Botetourt County has the same tax burden as Fairfax. " Now you're saying that they're different everywhere.

So, are they the same or different?

[vicnice]

Originally Posted by saganista

The objection has been over the word "moderately" as used with regard to a comparison of Monthgomery to Fairfax counties. Have you meanwhile done a comparison to the so-called People's Republic of Arlington? That too is a county in Virginia you may recall.

People's republic of Arlington is still cheaper :-).

[RamblingMan]

The overall tax burden probably is generally higher in Maryland than in Virginia. On the other hand, one can probably make a case that Maryland must be doing something right. Maryland's median income is still substantially higher than Virginia's and Maryland's poverty rate is significantly lower. This would factor in PG and Botetourt Counties as well as Moco and Fairfax.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by RamblingMan

The overall tax burden probably is generally higher in Maryland than in Virginia. On the other hand, one can probably make a case that Maryland must be doing something right. Maryland's median income is still substantially higher than Virginia's and Maryland's poverty rate is significantly lower. This would factor in PG and Botetourt Counties as well as Moco and Fairfax.

That's true, but I'm sure we can both admit that MD benefits from having a much smaller state and two large metropolis areas, which covers a large portion of the state. Virginia is such a huge state, but outside of Northern Virginia, Hampton Roads and Richmond there isn't a whole lot of major job areas in the state. The makeup of Northern VA is much different than the rest of VA. I think the better comparison is to compare the median incomes of the MD suburbs of DC with the VA suburbs of DC.