Trump Campaign Pulls Out of Virginia (Hamilton: theatre, Whole Foods, rated)

[TheWatchmen]

Originally Posted by rpe290

Destroying things is how lefties show their great "acceptance and tolerance," don't ya know.

It does not matter how "lefties" protest. By silently taking a knee, marching and carrying signs peacefully, by boycotting goods and services - it doesn't matter. You will still have a problem.

[Bigfoot424]

Originally Posted by TheWatchmen

It does not matter how "lefties" protest. By silently taking a knee, marching and carrying signs peacefully, by boycotting goods and services - it doesn't matter. You will still have a problem.

Are you trying to be obtuse? We all are critical of things we don't agree with to include the left and their not stop bitching when Bush was in office. I may or may not be critical of those taking a knee or carrying signs but I also know they have the right while living in this country. Burning things, breaking things, hurting people and so on deserves everyone's criticism and everyone's backlash. Thug behavior cannot be tolerated.

[JD984]

Originally Posted by boxus

But they were not out blocking highways and destroying property doing it.

Wrong. Tea Party demonstrators took over major roads on numerous occasions, including in DC, and other right-wing fanatics have both destroyed property and taken lives.

With Trump having said the things he said during the campaign, and suggested before the election that he might not accept the results, I don't see how anyone could possible be surprised by the protests that are now happening and will continue to take place, including in the DC area (hundred of DCPS students protested downtown today and brought traffic to a crawl).

As TheWatchmen said, no form of protest will be acceptable to those who expect everyone to now fall in line and pledge allegiance to Donald Trump's America, and that is unlikely to happen without a change in tone and direction from the President-elect and his circle of advisors.

[johnsonkk]

Originally Posted by JD984

Wrong. Tea Party demonstrators took over major roads on numerous occasions, including in DC, and other right-wing fanatics have both destroyed property and taken lives.

With Trump having said the things he said during the campaign, and suggested before the election that he might not accept the results, I don't see how anyone could possible be surprised by the protests that are now happening and will continue to take place, including in the DC area (hundred of DCPS students protested downtown today and brought traffic to a crawl).

As TheWatchmen said, no form of protest will be acceptable to those who expect everyone to now fall in line and pledge allegiance to Donald Trump's America, and that is unlikely to happen without a change in tone and direction from the President-elect and his circle of advisors.

JD >>> you're confusing the occupy wall street riots with the tea party.

Why did the Occupy Wall Street protests turn violent and not the Tea Party protests? | Ordinary Times

The California protests that you highlight had a thousand at most, not 100,000 " peaceful" Protesters. We keep adding links to add legitimacy to our comments where as you make up data.

The democratic party is now denying Nancy Pelosi the minority dictatorship in the house because at 76, the youthful democrats are livid that Nancy doesn't represent modern democrats. Surely there is some leadership that can found that wants to move the U.S. Forward....

[leavingwash]

Originally Posted by JD984

With Trump having said the things he said during the campaign, and suggested before the election that he might not accept the results, I don't see how anyone could possible be surprised by the protests that are now happening and will continue to take place, including in the DC area (hundred of DCPS students protested downtown today and brought traffic to a crawl).

As TheWatchmen said, no form of protest will be acceptable to those who expect everyone to now fall in line and pledge allegiance to Donald Trump's America, and that is unlikely to happen without a change in tone and direction from the President-elect and his circle of advisors.

Making a statement that he may not accept the results in no way implied that Trump would have planned to cause riots and destruction.

And with regards to Trump needing to change his "tone". First remember - he is not in charge yet. He can't make any changes in any fashion that would be accepted and believable. If he made a different statement/changed his tone - there would be outcry that he was lying.

Also with regards to whatever "tone" a person found unacceptable, believe it is important to note that clearly a large segment of the states (29 at least) heard something different. Those states did not believe that the current administration cared about them, spoke to them.

And regardless of whether someone agreed with the election results - it does not excuse the violence and damage. And I would be willing to bet that more than 1/2 of those people didn't show up to vote, didn't care and are just jumping on the excuse to cause trouble, the excuse to miss an exam, the excuse to leave school.

Every election that is close to 1/2 of the voters that are displeased with the results. Buck up buttercup and wait out the next four years.

[JD984]

Originally Posted by leavingwash

Making a statement that he may not accept the results in no way implied that Trump would have planned to cause riots and destruction.

And with regards to Trump needing to change his "tone". First remember - he is not in charge yet. He can't make any changes in any fashion that would be accepted and believable. If he made a different statement/changed his tone - there would be outcry that he was lying.

Also with regards to whatever "tone" a person found unacceptable, believe it is important to note that clearly a large segment of the states (29 at least) heard something different. Those states did not believe that the current administration cared about them, spoke to them.

And regardless of whether someone agreed with the election results - it does not excuse the violence and damage. And I would be willing to bet that more than 1/2 of those people didn't show up to vote, didn't care and are just jumping on the excuse to cause trouble, the excuse to miss an exam, the excuse to leave school.

Every election that is close to 1/2 of the voters that are displeased with the results. Buck up buttercup and wait out the next four years.

First of all, your effort to equate every peaceful protest against Trump as a "riot" is getting tired.

Second, unless the Electoral College withholds its votes from Trump, we'll not see what type of "riots and destruction" Trump's supporters might have caused had he lost the election. We can speculate that it might have been very ugly, given the proclivity of some of his supporters to brandish and use firearms, but at this point it's just that, speculation.

The rest of your post just speaks to whether Trump's election was legitimate, or whether many of his supporters either believed his message or were prepared to disregard things he said because they preferred him to Clinton. That's irrelevant and has nothing to do with whether he was a uniquely offensive candidate to millions of Americans, or whether they will continue to express their displeasure in areas such as the DC region, where the majority of voters in DC and the close-in suburbs view him negatively, with a mix of hostility and trepidation.

If people protesting actually engage in the destruction of property, presumably they will be arrested and dealt with appropriately. But your efforts to tar every protester as a rioter will continue to fall flat. And, based on what is taking place now in DC, the protests are likely to continue until Trump finds a way to articulate a less divisive, and more inclusive message, for this nation. That's on you to mull over, "buttercup." I'm just telling it like it is (sirens are blaring yet again downtown as I type, as they have for much of the afternoon).

[lovnova]

will someone please give him a pacifier!

[Ffxdata]

I predict that this thread will continue without consensus.

[Bigfoot424]

Originally Posted by JD984

Wrong. Tea Party demonstrators took over major roads on numerous occasions, including in DC, and other right-wing fanatics have both destroyed property and taken lives.

With Trump having said the things he said during the campaign, and suggested before the election that he might not accept the results, I don't see how anyone could possible be surprised by the protests that are now happening and will continue to take place, including in the DC area (hundred of DCPS students protested downtown today and brought traffic to a crawl).

As TheWatchmen said, no form of protest will be acceptable to those who expect everyone to now fall in line and pledge allegiance to Donald Trump's America, and that is unlikely to happen without a change in tone and direction from the President-elect and his circle of advisors.

I in no way cared for the Tea Party but you are extremely wrong.

[JD984]

Originally Posted by Bigfoot424

I in no way cared for the Tea Party but you are extremely wrong.

How so? Perhaps the memory of being stuck in multi-hour traffic jams downtown due to closed streets for Tea Party demonstrations made more of an impact on me than someone in Prince William or hanging out near Highway 81.