Californians moving to Hawaii? (live, beaches, weather)

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by Oahulife

Yeah it must be a drag driving from Pearl City to Aiea to shop at Safeway for some good groceries? In my opinion everything is overpriced not just furniture stores lol.

What? Trashing all the local stores for mainland ones? For shame....

[pj737]

Originally Posted by thejackalope

The problem is not that the houses are double walled, insulated, and climate controlled. It's that they have sliding windows and short overhangs that provide no shade.

And then often those houses don't HAVE climate control, or they do but it's not used because of the cost of electricity (3x the mainland).

They should have tilting windows to give the same open area as louvres, light colored roofs, and big overhangs.

Pros of sliding windows are that they are less expensive, easily available and require no (metal) mechanical components to keep them working thus making them more reliable. There is also no wind loads to worry about stressing the hinges and frame of the windows. The cons are that they cut airflow by 40%+ over awning windows. However, while awning windows can "open" (i.e. detach itself from the frame) entirely, the airflow is still restricted to some extent as awning windows do not open perpendicular to the frame. The only "tilting" window that provides the same level of ventilation as jalousies are casement windows but they come with their own set of downsides.

Light colored roofs are extremely unattractive - I would never want a white roof unless it was entirely not visible from anywhere but high up in the sky.

Big overhangs can be beneficial but they are subject to wind uplift forces which could trigger a roof failure in a strong windstorm. The best thing to do is have normal overhangs (30-36") and plant trees around a house. Foliage shading is far more efficient at keeping a house cool than a 5-foot overhang.

[Mikala43]

This thread needs to go back on topic. Subsequent off topic posts will be removed. Mahalo

[RockyRoadg]

Actually a very small amount of Californians move to Hawaii, The Highest percentage of CA to other states are #1 Texas #2 Arizona #3 Nevada. Although If I could afford $7.00 for a gallon of MILK! Hawaii Would be my first choice. Lol

[LongAndLow]

I think the OPs question is sort of like asking why some people want chocolate ice cream when they already have vanilla. Some people just like chocolate better. Some people like chocolate and vanilla equally, but just like to vary it up once in a while.

Personally, I love San Diego. I've daydreamed about living in Hawaii. I like the balmy weather, the warmer water. I like the slower pace, and I think it would be neat to learn about and experience a different culture. Also, as someone else mentioned, I am used to a high cost of living.

All that said, if it weren't for the military moving my family, I doubt I would ever go through with it. If I had a ton of money I could see owning a retirement home there to spend a couple of months a year. Maybe it's a bit of wanderlust, but I think variety is nice.

[thejackalope]

Originally Posted by LongAndLow

I think the OPs question is sort of like asking why some people want chocolate ice cream when they already have vanilla. Some people just like chocolate better. Some people like chocolate and vanilla equally, but just like to vary it up once in a while.

Personally, I love San Diego. I've daydreamed about living in Hawaii. I like the balmy weather, the warmer water. I like the slower pace, and I think it would be neat to learn about and experience a different culture. Also, as someone else mentioned, I am used to a high cost of living.

All that said, if it weren't for the military moving my family, I doubt I would ever go through with it. If I had a ton of money I could see owning a retirement home there to spend a couple of months a year. Maybe it's a bit of wanderlust, but I think variety is nice.

"Hawaii" doesn't have the properties you are thinking of. Some parts of Hawaii do, but most of Oahu is urbanized and just as fast paced. The only thing slow is the movement of traffic

[longislandicedteaforme]

Probably to be surrounded by people of Asian descent. While the weather might be similar, the populations and food are very different.

[hotzcatz]

I met a couple of folks who moved here from L.A., they said they moved to get away from the zombies.

[SoloPilot]

People move to Hawai'i from California today for the same reasons that people moved to the islands from the Marquesas way back when. They didn't want to stay where they were.

[whtviper1]

There is a whooping 15,000 residents in Hawaii that moved to Hawaii. That's it.