Quick Poll: Who will you vote for in the Presidential election? (layoffs, cost)

[pontiac51]

The next time we'll see a Republican in the White House will be the same time we see a Republican mayor in Cleveland, Columbus or Cincinnati. It's not going to happen!!!!

[taxedtodeath]

You also then realize that this trend accelerated during the 2008-2009 economic collapse, is now beginning to level off due to the fact that unemployment is now on a downward trend,

Employment is also on a downward trend, especially in Ohio.


BLS Ohio data. FORWARD!

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by taxedtodeath

Employment is also on a downward trend, especially in Ohio.


BLS Ohio data. FORWARD!

That is not a graph of employment. HACKERY,YEAH!

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

To be fair, you did say "I heard" and that someone "told me."

To be fair, I stated that over the years I had heard that patients are sometimes disposed of and thought ''yeah, ok" translation being ''sure it does''. Until it happened through personal experience. Not sure what is unclear about my direct personal experience.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Exactly. That's not first-hand experience, that's second hand at best and it's probably something someone told the people who told him. It's like a game of Telephone. A story of a doctor misdiagnosing a patient becomes a conspiracy to murder the elderly. It's ridiculous to suggest that it's common practice for doctors to go about killing their patients. It just blows the mind that someone could believe that.

Never mentioned misdiagnosis. Who suggested it's common practice for doctors to do this? Some doctors dispose of patients; don't be such a naive know-it-all. It's not conspiracy to commit murder, it's 1st degree murder. I believe it because if happened to me.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Never mentioned misdiagnosis. Who suggested it's common practice for doctors to do this? Some doctors that dispose of patients; don't be such a naive know-it-all. It's not conspiracy to commit murder, it's 1st degree murder. I believe it because if happened to me.

You can't say doctors kill patients and then not provide clear evidence. Anecdotes don't count. I know many good doctors that have done wonders for all my relatives with serious illnesses, most of them elderly.

[bjimmy24]

Kamms, I'm not trying to downplay your family's tragedy, but this is all you said about personal experience in your original post: "My story, especially with a terminally ill patient, is really scary and dark."

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Kamms, I'm not trying to downplay your family's tragedy, but this is all you said about personal experience in your original post: "My story, especially with a terminally ill patient, is really scary and dark."

It's not common!!!! I'm not going into the specific facts on this forum. The phrase ''doctors playing God'' is more than a cliche. Topic closed.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by Kamms

It's not common!!!! I'm not going into the specific facts on this forum. The phrase ''doctors playing God'' is more than a cliche. Topic closed.

OK, but you must understand why a lot of people doubt you. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[taxedtodeath]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

That is not a graph of employment. HACKERY,YEAH!

Labor force = those working + those actively seeking employment.

If the labor force decreases, either total employment is decreasing or the unemployed are taking themselves out of the labor force (and not getting jobs). Which is it?