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Excerpt: "93.4% of woman who are over 45 will have a miscarriage. Or put another way, only 6% of pregnant women over age 45 will deliver a baby. 7% of all women Duggar’s age will have an ectopic (tubal) pregnancy and 8.2% will have a stillbirth. One out of 19 pregnant women who are age 45 will have a baby with Trisomy 21 or Down’s syndrome."
Aside from the risks to the baby, the more pregnancies, the more risks there are for the mother.
For one thing, she could bleed to death because the uterus has a more difficult time contracting after so many births. Also, the placenta is more likely to be in the wrong place because of scar tissue.
Unfortunately, she isn't going to listen. She has stated on the show that she will willingly lay down her life to have more children. This is part and parcel of the Quiverful Movement, which downplays the risks of lots of pregnancies.
The article below was originally on NO LONGER QIVERING. The owner of the site used to be part of the movement and recognizes all the books the Duggars have linked to on their web site. She knows where they are coming from.
Michelle also downplays the risk of pre-eclampsia. I saw one article where Michelle said she read a lot about pre-eclampsia and that it's totally unpredictable. But that isn't true. Pre-eclampsia happens most to the youngest mothers and the oldest mothers. Your risk goes up if you've had it before and she had it in her 2nd pregnancy and her 19th pregnancy. She fits the known pattern.
She also had gall bladder problems with her 19th pregnancy, which also fits the pattern.
But then Michelle reads a lot of Quiverfull literature which isn't based in medical reality. Michelle's risk of pre-eclampsia in future pregnancies is 40% right now according to the link below.
I believe the Jim Bob and Michelle truly love each other and their children, but they are too tied up in their religious outlook on childbearing to avoid tragedy.
I believe the Jim Bob and Michelle truly love each other and their children, but they are too tied up in their religious outlook on childbearing to avoid tragedy.
This.....and the fact that each new baby probably guarantees them another year of their show.
I think they're so wrapped up in their celebrity, which revolves around how many babies she can poop out, that it's like an addiction and may be difficult to stop, no matter what the doctors say.
Michelle is 45 now. She has crossed a danger threshold and the risks are becoming greater and greater.
We Are Not Surprised: Michelle Duggar Loses 20th Pregnancy « Dr. Linda Burke-Galloway
Excerpt: "93.4% of woman who are over 45 will have a miscarriage. Or put another way, only 6% of pregnant women over age 45 will deliver a baby. 7% of all women Duggar’s age will have an ectopic (tubal) pregnancy and 8.2% will have a stillbirth. One out of 19 pregnant women who are age 45 will have a baby with Trisomy 21 or Down’s syndrome."
Aside from the risks to the baby, the more pregnancies, the more risks there are for the mother.
For one thing, she could bleed to death because the uterus has a more difficult time contracting after so many births. Also, the placenta is more likely to be in the wrong place because of scar tissue.
Unfortunately, she isn't going to listen. She has stated on the show that she will willingly lay down her life to have more children. This is part and parcel of the Quiverful Movement, which downplays the risks of lots of pregnancies.
The article below was originally on NO LONGER QIVERING. The owner of the site used to be part of the movement and recognizes all the books the Duggars have linked to on their web site. She knows where they are coming from.
I believe the Jim Bob and Michelle truly love each other and their children, but they are too tied up in their religious outlook on childbearing to avoid tragedy.
wow! those stats are staggering, assuming they're true.
I think they're so wrapped up in their celebrity, which revolves around how many babies she can poop out, that it's like an addiction and may be difficult to stop, no matter what the doctors say.
While I don't agree with the Duggar's religious views by a long shot, I actually think they are totally sincere. I say that based on observation from way back when the show started. I haven't seen any change in personality with the success of the show. They are exactly the same people as when they lived in a small crowded house and were slowly building their current house with their own hands. Show or no show, they were already committed to leave the decision of how many children they have "up to God".
They have said they see their show as a ministry. They want their Quiverfull beliefs to spread.
I just think their beliefs about God and childbearing could end up killing Michelle and/or harming any future infants. But even if Michelle died, I don't think Jim Bob and the family would waver or second guess themselves, heartbroken as they would be.
They are entrenched in their beliefs and they believe this is how God wants them to live. Through their grief, they would comfort themselves that they followed God even unto death.
This.....and the fact that each new baby probably guarantees them another year of their show.
I think they're so wrapped up in their celebrity, which revolves around how many babies she can poop out, that it's like an addiction and may be difficult to stop, no matter what the doctors say.
I think it's time for an intervention.
Maybe Jimbo needs to be introduced to five-fingered Sally, and leave his wife alone until she reaches menopause. Just kidding...sort of.
While I don't agree with the Duggar's religious views by a long shot, I actually think they are totally sincere. I say that based on observation from way back when the show started. I haven't seen any change in personality with the success of the show. They are exactly the same people as when they lived in a small crowded house and were slowly building their current house with their own hands. Show or no show, they were already committed to leave the decision of how many children they have "up to God".
They have said they see their show as a ministry. They want their Quiverfull beliefs to spread.
I just think their beliefs about God and childbearing could end up killing Michelle and/or harming any future infants. But even if Michelle died, I don't think Jim Bob and the family would waver or second guess themselves, heartbroken as they would be.
They are entrenched in their beliefs and they believe this is how God wants them to live. Through their grief, they would comfort themselves that they followed God even unto death.
I think that if they saw their show as a ministry they would forgo their handsome salaries and donate a huge portion to charity.
I think that if they saw their show as a ministry they would forgo their handsome salaries and donate a huge portion to charity.
Maybe they do donate and just don't announce it. Many Christians believe that donations to charity should be done quietly because the blessing comes from God knowing you gave. Not your neighbors. (Or in this case, television audience.)
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The Duggars have been seen helping lots of people on their show. Again, their sincerity isn't the problem at all. Their rigid ideas about what God wants from them are.
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