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Old 12-05-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Ultimately the kid isn't grocery shopping, the MOM is. She created this situation for this kid and if she can't say NO then the kid should be removed. I knew kids in foster care and I know they are usually worse BUT this is serious. She needs counseling, parent classes, and this child needs someone to do what's BEST, not what's easiest.
So you're all for taking a kid out of a bad situation to put him in a worse situation? Makes very little sense to me.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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Wouldn't it be cheaper for the state to pay for some after school aerobics classes, hire a dietitian to help the family with nutrition and hire a SW to oversee everything then to take the child away from his home and his family and place him with strangers who may or may not be able to help him?
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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Wouldn't it be cheaper for the state to pay for some after school aerobics classes, hire a dietitian to help the family with nutrition and hire a SW to oversee everything then to take the child away from his home and his family and place him with strangers who may or may not be able to help him?
It seems that the state already tried all that. The mother was unable to put into actual practice what she was taught to do.

The SW would have to live with the family. There would be no way to pay for that.

The mother was referred to a comprehensive program for obese children. She either did not participate, did not finish, or did not implement what she was shown how to do.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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It seems that the state already tried all that. The mother was unable to put into actual practice what she was taught to do.
Did they really exhaust all options other then removing a child from a home where he is wanted and loved?

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The SW would have to live with the family. There would be no way to pay for that.
I disagree. Weekly visits would be plenty.

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The mother was referred to a comprehensive program for obese children. She either did not participate, did not finish, or did not implement what she was shown how to do.
The article says that he was enrolled in a program but it did not say if he finished or not. The article says that he was losing weight but gained it back rapidly and the mother thought that other kids were giving him food, she was not happy about that. They told her to encourage exercise so Mom bought him a bike.

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But now lawyers for the mother say they've been told that the foster mother who has the child in a neighboring suburb is having trouble keeping up with all of his appointments.

There was even a discussion about getting the foster mother additional help or moving the child again, this time to a foster home with a personal trainer, Amata said.
County places obese Cleveland Heights child in foster care | cleveland.com

Why didn't they offer a personal trainer when the child was living at home? What makes the state think that a foster family can do a better job with this child? What are the long term effects of being removed from one's home as a child? Ever heard of emotional overeating?

This is a very sad situation.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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So you're all for taking a kid out of a bad situation to put him in a worse situation? Makes very little sense to me.
He may get a lovely foster home. I had a friend who went from 3-18 at the same home and they were amazing people. At least SOMEONE objective can monitor this poor child.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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He may get a lovely foster home. I had a friend who went from 3-18 at the same home and they were amazing people. At least SOMEONE objective can monitor this poor child.
You posted that foster homes are usually worse than the situation that the kid comes from. If that is the case why would you take a child out of a bad situation and put them in a situation that is USUALLY (YOUR WORD) worse? How does that make sense to you?
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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The boy's parents are overweight (not obese) and his brother is of normal weight. If it's all about the home environment/the mother doing something wrong - Why isn't the rest of the family extremely large? The powers that be want to take this kid away from his family so that they can monitor every bite he takes and every move he makes. Sounds kind of prison-like to me...

This boy is 9 years old. He is old enough to have an opinion about his situation (and his life) - what does he want? Has anyone even bothered to ask him?
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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Ultimately the kid isn't grocery shopping, the MOM is. She created this situation for this kid and if she can't say NO then the kid should be removed. I knew kids in foster care and I know they are usually worse BUT this is serious. She needs counseling, parent classes, and this child needs someone to do what's BEST, not what's easiest.
I agree! She does need nutritional counseling...She lacks good parenting skills. She definitely needs to be educated more when it comes to her children's nutritional habits. A dietitian and a fitness instructor could pave the way for this child's future. Scary to think a child can get this LARGE....and let it go for so long. I want to know where their pediatrician was through all of this when the weight started to creep up...usually a pediatrician would intervene and suggest or refer the parents to what they SHOULD do to correct this....A sad situation all around!
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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I agree! She does need nutritional counseling...She lacks good parenting skills. She definitely needs to be educated more when it comes to her children's nutritional habits. A dietitian and a fitness instructor could pave the way for this child's future. Scary to think a child can get this LARGE....and let it go for so long. I want to know where their pediatrician was through all of this when the weight started to creep up...usually a pediatrician would intervene and suggest or refer the parents to what they SHOULD do to correct this....A sad situation all around!
I guess he'll need an advocate to follow him around 24/7: back/forth and during school, friend's houses, extracurriculars, birthday parties, the playground, search his room for forbidden contraband at bedtime....You don't want him getting hold of a snack cake

I saw a documentary on t.v. about a boy who was a very picky eater as an infant/toddler. But when he started nearing puberty his appetite suddenly took off and he began eating anything and everything he could lay his hands on. They put locks on the pantry, searched his room, bought only healthy food. But this kid found a way around all of their safeguards - he even went dumpster diving behind restaurants to get food. Family services/the courts got involved and threatened to take the child out of the home. The parents were at their wits end.

After some years of this, the kid was finally diagnosed with a genetic disorder that makes him always hungry to the point that he physically hurts. No matter how much he eats he can't make that awful feeling go away. There is no cure. The parents now monitor him 24/7, they have to. He'll fall off the wagon as soon as they turn their back.

I wonder if this 9 year old has something similar going on.

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Old 12-07-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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You posted that foster homes are usually worse than the situation that the kid comes from. If that is the case why would you take a child out of a bad situation and put them in a situation that is USUALLY (YOUR WORD) worse? How does that make sense to you?
Yup..usually is not always. This is a high profile case and I doubt this kid was sent to ghetto foster parents. How is destroying a child's body with food not as bad as destroying a child's body with violence? Emotional abuse is still abuse. Intent has never been more important than results.
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