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View Poll Results: At what age would you MAKE your child get a job?
15-17 74 50.34%
18-21 46 31.29%
22-25 19 12.93%
26+ 8 5.44%
Voters: 147. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-27-2015, 11:05 PM
 
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what state I live in is irrelevant... it seems like you need to worry about which states have cash assistance
yes!! I do unfortunately. Well the good thing is that I'm pretty much already in one of the top cash assistance states...it might be even the best, not too sure. But I do have a long way to go as far as navigating through the social security system. It's not going to be fun...a dreadful life ahead! guaranteed! well...this is better than a conventional career or full time job, but still awful
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:11 PM
 
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It's not going to be fun...a dreadful life ahead! guaranteed! well...this is better than a conventional career or full time job, but still awful
you don't sound happy
it's good to have ideals and a sense of what you like and don't like

what does bring you happiness, joy, and fulfillment in your daily activities? we know you don't like to work at a job....but what do you like to do, what makes your heart sing, what makes you spring out of bed in the morning eager to face the day?
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:23 PM
 
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For some parents, it's a huge PITN to have to drive kids to work. PT can be worse if the hours involve more trips.

I've seen little kids work in their parent's store or shops. They don't get paid, but obviously, they get free room and board.

15 - 17? If they need the discipline or money.
Or if you need the $$. I had a business professor tell a story how his father raised 6 kids. He was a bit too proud to admit the family funds were in dire straights, so he made his eldest 3 sons get a job. They keep half. They've earned it, but the other half goes to him since he raised them and put a roof over their heads. The first 2 managed to get a steel mill job. The 3rd wasn't physically strong enough, so he got a job at the slaughter house.

18 - 21?
I'd definitely encourage them to get an internship during Jr. or Sr. year. Waitressing was common for freshman and sophomores.

22 - 25?
Either behind on the work curve, or lost time due to grad. school. Get a move on in finding work!

26+
Should also be working by now. Exceptions of course are couples who need to sacrifice for the kids. In one case, someone gave up a good job for a freelancing gig so that his wife could attend MBA school.
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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by aliens? my assumption was that they were funded by the wealthy folks of a distant galaxy...um thats what my parents told me. Did they lie to me? because if they lied to me then...then that is not okay

I can ALMOST believe you would think that.

So, basically, your cool with having others subsidize you for life.

I volunteer at a homeless shelter, and have seen what happens when people try that over long periods of time.

Good luck. You're going to need it.
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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yes!! I do unfortunately. Well the good thing is that I'm pretty much already in one of the top cash assistance states...it might be even the best, not too sure. But I do have a long way to go as far as navigating through the social security system. It's not going to be fun...a dreadful life ahead! guaranteed! well...this is better than a conventional career or full time job, but still awful

For the folks I've seen trying to manipulate the system it is a job. And not one that pays very well.
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:33 PM
 
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dude isn't too clued in on how much those 'benefits' are. they are like $100-$400 a month. all you have to do to bask in this luxury is get yourself classified as an invalid or crazy person, basically one step away from being a ward of the state
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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dude isn't too clued in on how much those 'benefits' are. they are like $100-$400 a month. all you have to do to bask in this luxury is get yourself classified as an invalid or crazy person, basically one step away from being a ward of the state
Yep. You should offer him the use of your user name.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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yes!! I do unfortunately. Well the good thing is that I'm pretty much already in one of the top cash assistance states...it might be even the best, not too sure. But I do have a long way to go as far as navigating through the social security system. It's not going to be fun...a dreadful life ahead! guaranteed! well...this is better than a conventional career or full time job, but still awful
You certainly can't be serious here. You've gotta be toying with us. What are you going to get? $400/month? What the hell can you do with that?

I'll keep my job and career and continue to fund my awesome hobbies.

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Old 05-28-2015, 07:27 AM
 
Location: here
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I'm not concerned about that...um. There is social security in this culture by the way, and that should give me some options. No its not a great system compared to Scandinavia...but I'm learning the ropes at the moment so I at least have an idea of how I might get on in this dreadful life
You pay into social security when you work. If you've never paid, you won't get much, if anything.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: East TN
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In my area yard work is "professionalized"

There are companies of adult men who have trucks and "pro" equipment and have the local market sewn up.

In HOA neighborhoods you are pretty much required to use the service the HOA has chosen, and HOA neighborhoods were the largest growing segment of housing from 1990 until now.

It would be hard for a random teenager with a $200 lawn mower to compete. Even if they could they would be competing on price, not making $37 an hour.

That is one of the bigger issues with entry level work today. There are a lot of jobs that used to be for high school kids that are being done by older adults. Paper routes, fast food, retail, etc.
I live in an HOA neighborhood, have many times, and other than those that PROVIDE lawn care as part of your dues, I have never heard of one that required you to use a particular company. Seems like that would violate some sort of law against unfair competition. While in our neighborhood there are certainly "professional" lawn care services, there are also young people who work on word of mouth and get a LOT of work. One is the 3 man team of my 3 doors down neighbor's grandsons. They are in college and do yardwork such as weeding, mowing, hauling rocks and mulch, laying sod, loading moving trucks, rearranging furniture, etc. Another is a two man team of developmentally challenged young guys who do yardwork. We also have retirees who do painting, electrical work, tile-laying, etc. in their spare time. There is a lot of side work being done out there.
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