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I DON'T agree with what she's doing AT ALL...as you can clearly tell by reading my posts. BUT, I think the definition of "adequate" is very liberal and as long as their BASIC needs are being met there's really nothing that could be done. A 3-bedroom house with 17 people may not be adequate in most people's minds (including mine) but they ARE being provided shelter and as long as it's safe, I don't think there's anything they can do.
The thing is, it's NOT safe. Not for 6 young children, and totally not safe for those 6 PLUS 8 more newborns.
Hell, her family is violating occupancy laws just living in their house!
She a real winner: "Yes, I get food stamps. About $490 a month. But it's used only for food".
Really? You can only use food stamps for food?
And here I was thinking all along I could pay my mortgage or fill up my gas tanks with food stamps.
Wow, I underestimated her level of nuttiness.
I just wonder what kind of crap food she is feeding 7 people with less than $500/month in food stamps. That's about $70/month/per person. Hell, we spend that much a month in groceries for 3 of us! Granted we eat VERY healthy, and don't buy junk, but still it's crazy.
I don't agree with requiring insurance companies to cover IVF. That's ridiculous. IVF is NOT a necessity....in a way I think that's like insurance covering plastic surgery. I understnad FULLY that many people can't have kids without IVF and that it's a great thing...but it's certainly not something that insurance should be paying for when they have to pay for severe medical issues for others.
Edit: I just reread that and noted that California excludes IVF. Still, if any other states actually require it to be covered, it's ridiculous.
I disagree with SOME plastic surgery.
For cosmetic reasons, nope; but valid reasons, such as reconstruction yeah, insurance should pay.
I can't see 1) how she can do this with so many kids or 2) why she is going into counseling when she seems unstable herself.
Well mental health professions tend to attract some unstable people. That is also why good mental health programs are *supposed* to screen their applicants very carefully.
I know of one program where applicants enrolled in the Ethics and Techniques I class first. THEN they had the application process that involved written essay, personal interview, and mock techniques session. Any hint of instability and the applicant was not moving into the full graduate program. Also, there are comprehensive exams and mock sessions on the way out as well. Not everyone passes these either. So game over, thanks for playing.
Look, we have told the world to get out of our wombs for years now. No one could tell her not to have the children, so no one should be able to tell her how to live now. We can not have it both ways, it is her body and her right to have children, just as it is her right and her body to abort same said children. We can not say cover children with heath care and then pick and chose which are deserving.
It is also OUR right as taxpayers to determine and complain where OUR money is going, and to whom and for what it will be going to.
How could she possibly have produced 45 eggs prior to the first implantation without taking years??? She had already been pregnant and lost at least one baby.
I know when you are starting out with IVF, hey pump you FULL of hormones and drugs so you can produce as many eggs as possible. My best guy friend and his wife went through the beginning stages of IVF, and did the fertility treatments for about 6 months before they became pregnant on their own, in that 6 month time frame she would have normally shed 6 eggs, but in that time frame, she shed around 20 or so.
So it wouldn't have been that hard to get that many eggs out of her. especially since I read that she's had problems since she was a teenager, and that is MORE than enough time to get a ton of eggs.
I would like to see a law passed that says that no more than 2 embroys can be implanted and any doctor who does this in the future should be prosecuted and subject to having sanctions taken against their medical license.
Then if that law were passed, some women would NEVER be pregnant.
Not all women take that easy, and some are hard as hell to take, and that is why some Docs do implant so many. Our old neighbor on base, had 4 different IVF implants done and only had 1 kid from all four. The first time they implanted 2, and nothing, then 3, nothing, then 4, nothing, then 6 on the last shot and only 1 took. Out of 15 embryo's only one baby resulted.
Granted, she is not a normal case, but there are women like her around, and it's not right to penalize them for one stupid girl.
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