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A lot of people THINK they have seen a vaccine injury because, like you, they think if someone gets a vaccination and 5 minutes later gets hit by a bus, the vaccination caused it....
Foolish people mine the web for sites that back up ridiculous assertions without investigating those sources to see if they are reliable...
Foolish people ignore reams of scientific evidence, decades of data showing little to no risk from vaccination and unquestionable proof of effectiveness in favor of "conspiracy theories" that can never be proven...
Foolish people make unsubstantiated claims regarding harms of vaccines and how they work when clearly they have less than a 12 year olds understanding of biology, chemistry, physiology....
Just out of curiosity, what would be the anti-vax groups motivation for making up stories about vax reactions or vaccines in general? Do groups such as WHALE or people like Jenny Mc Carthy profit if people skip their immunizations? What is their motivation for existing and speaking out?
Just out of curiosity, what would be the anti-vax groups motivation for making up stories about vax reactions or vaccines in general? Do groups such as WHALE or people like Jenny Mc Carthy profit if people skip their immunizations? What is their motivation for existing and speaking out?
Jenny McCarthy was promoting her book when she was on Oprah.
There is profit in it for nonvax just like there is for vax.
I think that those who are sincerely antivax know how to pick through the ones who are selling their product (be books, home remedies, etc) for the sake of profit.
Jenny McCarthy was promoting her book when she was on Oprah.
That makes sense but do you think she's making up the stories about her son?
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There is profit in it for nonvax just like there is for vax.
What is the motivation behind the groups like WHALE or from naturopaths, chiropractors, or doctors who are anti-vaccine or the individual stories from parents?
That makes sense but do you think she's making up the stories about her son?
What is the motivation behind the groups like WHALE or from naturopaths, chiropractors, or doctors who are anti-vaccine or the individual stories from parents?
They profit from "naturopathic" and homeopathic remedies and nonconventional blood tests that aren't covered by health insurance, that they oh-so-conveniently offer in their own offices (for a fee). A vaccine is a one or two-time deal. Spinal adjustments are usually recommended 1-2 times per week, every week, for months and months, and don't treat people for virii (although some chiropractors will insist that spinal adjustments stimulate the immune system and prevent illness, which is just patently untrue).
Many anti-vax "medical professionals" profit off the scare-mongering, because there's MUCH more profit in patients returning for questionable treatments and nutritional supplements, than there is in a single office visit and a vaccine injection, with a single follow-up some time within the following year.
There is HUGE profit in nutritional supplements. And some supplement companies deal exclusively with the alternative medical professions, so if the doctor says "you need to take 2 of these, and one each of those, those, and those" you'll have to buy it from him, because you can't get it in the store. And thus - he profits. Immensely. Far FAR more than an MD will profit from a single office visit and a vaccination shot.
What is the motivation behind the groups like WHALE or from naturopaths, chiropractors, or doctors who are anti-vaccine or the individual stories from parents?
WHALE: the attention it gets. The more search terms in google, the more traffic their sites get. Ignorance. Naturopaths: another group to sell overpriced, worthless supplements to. Ignorance. Chiropractors: manipulations fix everything. Just plain ignorance Doctors: Ignorance. Desire for attention. Often selling something, e.g. books and tapes. Not someone I would want treating me or my family. Parents: the need to find someone to blame. Once a cause is identified, if someone can be blamed: money. Not ignorant, just hurt and angry. And feeling guilty because so much of autism is genetic.
WHALE: the attention it gets. The more search terms in google, the more traffic their sites get. Ignorance.
Just for attention? That doesn't really make sense as a motivator.
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Naturopaths: another group to sell overpriced, worthless supplements to. Ignorance.
Naturopathic medicine is based on the belief that the body has an innate healing ability. Naturopathic doctors teach their patients to use diet, exercise and lifestyle changes to enhance their bodies’ ability to fight disease and stay healthy. They often recommend supplements but they don't always sell their own supplements.
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Chiropractors: manipulations fix everything. Just plain ignorance.
Why do people some people continue to go back to chiropractors over and over again if there is no health benefit. Many actually do experience real benefits.
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Doctors: Ignorance. Desire for attention. Often selling something, e.g. books and tapes. Not someone I would want treating me or my family.
They were trained under the western model of medicine that many seem to hold so dear. How did they become so "ignorant"?
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Parents: the need to find someone to blame. Once a cause is identified, if someone can be blamed: money. Not ignorant, just hurt and angry. And feeling guilty because so much of autism is genetic.
You can't sue vaccine makers so it's not like they are profiting. Most parents know their children well enough to recognize when something is not right and when they see their child change overnight after getting vaccinated I think there is reason to believe them. There is more to vaccine injury then autism, btw.
So basically it is your belief that anyone who doesn't believe that vaccines are 100% safe and effective is just ignorant? Interesting.
They profit from "naturopathic" and homeopathic remedies and nonconventional blood tests that aren't covered by health insurance, that they oh-so-conveniently offer in their own offices (for a fee). A vaccine is a one or two-time deal. Spinal adjustments are usually recommended 1-2 times per week, every week, for months and months, and don't treat people for virii (although some chiropractors will insist that spinal adjustments stimulate the immune system and prevent illness, which is just patently untrue).
Many anti-vax "medical professionals" profit off the scare-mongering, because there's MUCH more profit in patients returning for questionable treatments and nutritional supplements, than there is in a single office visit and a vaccine injection, with a single follow-up some time within the following year.
There is HUGE profit in nutritional supplements. And some supplement companies deal exclusively with the alternative medical professions, so if the doctor says "you need to take 2 of these, and one each of those, those, and those" you'll have to buy it from him, because you can't get it in the store. And thus - he profits. Immensely. Far FAR more than an MD will profit from a single office visit and a vaccination shot.
The pharmaceutical industry and vaccine makers make enormous profits and have major influence over the western model of medicine. Are they suspect as well considering how much money is at stake?
(CBS) For years some parents and scientists have raised concerns about vaccine safety, including a possible link to autism and ADD. Many independent experts have sided with government officials and other scientists who say there's no possible connection. But how "independent" are they? CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson shares here's what she found.
That CBS newslink was from 2008. The link between vaccines and autism was debunked in 2010. You're basing your opinion on a 2-year-old news reporter's incomplete investigation about a fraudulent, licenced-stripped "doctor's" psuedo-research.
The pharmaceutical industry and vaccine makers make enormous profits and have major influence over the western model of medicine. Are they suspect as well considering how much money is at stake?
It's no secret that big pharma makes a ton of money and aggressivley pushes their products and has impacted our medical system. However, what is also not a secret is that making and selling vaccines accounts for less than 1% of all operating profits for a pharmaceutical company. They make their big money pushing new treatment drugs. It's an old line that there isn't any money in cures, but there is big money in treating symptoms. Who knew it was true.
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