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Old 09-15-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Sweeping condescension towards the "masses" and "America" comes across so nicely.
Well....I do aim to please!

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We know all about Maslow's hierarchy of needs which, btw, puts safety above esteem... There are a myriad of reasons why someone chooses a particular car.
We? The masses? Because...well...nobody that knows about psychology would mistake a clinical model (one that isn't even used today at that...) for actual psychology.....


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If you have multiple automotive marketing research studies that support your above conclusion, please feel free to post them.
Marketing research studies that support common scientific knowledge? There are certainly several pieces of research that demonstrate that humans are social animals and that their decision making process (in fact, their entire well being) is dependent on their social environment. Would you like links to such things?

Though phrased in terms of "luxury cars", my claim was general and can be applied to any "luxury" item.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Manderly was referring to the wealth that people who buy $80k vehicles have. (Even though you don't need to be rich to afford one).
I hope not....because people don't need any wealth to buy a $80,000 vehicle. Just good credit and sufficient income. Which is just the point, most luxury cars are purchased by low net worth individuals with good credit and decent incomes...AKA the upper middle-class.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I hope not....because people don't need any wealth to buy a $80,000 vehicle. Just good credit and sufficient income.
I was actually referring to people being able to actually enjoy themselves. Clearly you aren't a very happy person and anyone else who is gets your "academic lesson" as to why they in fact aren't happy. Now I'm actually feeling sorry for you.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I was actually referring to people being able to actually enjoy themselves. Clearly you aren't a very happy person and anyone else who is gets your "academic lesson" as to why they in fact aren't happy.
People being able to enjoy themselves? Umm....what does that have to do with luxury cars? People that buy luxury cars enjoy themselves more? Or is it just that if you think at all about human decision making...you don't enjoy yourself? Very curious! But I enjoy myself just fine, in fact, more than most. My life has been pretty easy....pretty much do just what I like each day.

So, if I was talking about quantum mechanics would I also be unhappy, or do you just apply that label to people that happen to discuss the social sciences? Or perhaps its just people that don't think like you?
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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who is more obnoxious and useless than a member of our wonderful academic "elite"?
this again.

i get the bitter part. its a shame that "brilliant" academics are forced to drive honda civics and toyota corollas while evil capitalists parade around in their fancy cars.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:17 PM
 
Location: NJ
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People being able to enjoy themselves? Umm....what does that have to do with luxury cars? I enjoy myself just fine, in fact, more than most! My life is very lax..

So, if I was talking about quantum mechanics would I also be unhappy, or do you just apply that label to people that happen to discuss the social sciences?
Clearly not. You have already admitted to being bitter. Probably not how most people who are "lax" and enjoy themselves more than most would probably describe themselves.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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this again.

i get the bitter part. its a shame that "brilliant" academics are forced to drive honda civics and toyota corollas while evil capitalists parade around in their fancy cars.
You seem to have a bias against capitalists. It is clouding your view.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Murphy, TX
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For me personally, I think person should tons of cash (say $1 million) and then only buy car over $50K+ in cash. I don't think only an income of $100K or $120K is enough to get loan/lease for car, especially if have a house. You should have cash/network too.

Honestly, I could go buy a $50K car right now and it would hurt my saving by ~$300 month. But I did rather not. Of course I am not really a high end car fan. I guess some people do have expensive lobbies. Oh and I will admit that the main reason I would get a luxury car is to show off I have money (don't have now though!).
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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its a shame that "brilliant" academics are forced to drive honda civics and toyota corollas while evil capitalists parade around in their fancy cars.
Forced? Why would that be? They have incomes that are well above average. At top universities, they are very well off. Academics don't buy luxury cars because they don't gain status from luxury cars, nobody cares about them in the academic community. Academics gain status in other ways, for example getting published in a top journal.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:27 PM
 
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For me personally, I think person should tons of cash (say $1 million) and then only buy car over $50K+ in cash. I don't think only an income of $100K or $120K is enough to get loan/lease for car, especially if have a house. You should have cash/network too.

Honestly, I could go buy a $50K car right now and it would hurt my saving by ~$300 month. But I did rather not. Of course I am not really a high end car fan. I guess some people do have expensive lobbies.
Lobbies usually have an ROI built into them. So while they may be expensive, they are usually mutually beneficial, financially. So I wouldn't compare it to purchasing a car.
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