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Old 04-22-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I'm sorry, what is the revolutionary thinking this guy has done? He's wealthy and sits on a lot of boards, and...what? He's a centrist Dem. "he’s only trying to make sure the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing doesn’t send the Democrats over a cliff in 2020." Wow, such revolutionary thinking, lmao.
Call me crazy, but it might benefit Philadelphia to have an educated, successful business owning person who is truly involved with the civic and social affairs to lead the city...

I am confident that he wouldn't be worse than what we already have.

I don't know enough about him with regard to Presidential material, but certainly Philadelphia council or mayoral material.
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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If he can somehow pull the party back to the middle, he could do things. That's a tall order at the moment considering the far left is getting all the traction.
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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If he can somehow pull the party back to the middle, he could do things. That's a tall order at the moment considering the far left is getting all the traction.
It's really not far left, though. Large public spending on social programs, education, infrastructure, etc. and high taxes was previously part of our country's history. It all just "coincidentally" happened during a massive boom for the entire US. When right wing politics of low taxes and low public spending on education, infrastructure, health care, social programs, etc. became the norm, everything got worse. Really all the left wing Democrats want to do is reinstate old policies that emphasize cohesion wherein the government acts to ensure that all its citizens are taken care of. We had the money to do so once; we have it still today, but it's just concentrated in the tiniest hands...I mean smallest number of hands...but also those tiny wittle hands.

OTOH, the Republican Party continues to slowly move further and further right wing closer and closer to policies which will not be named here. They chip away at all social programs little by little. They chip away at worker's rights little by little. They chip away at equality for all Americans little by little. They chip away at creating an equal start for all Americans by defunding public education and putting the burden on younger generations. They continue to promote failed policies like 1) trickle down voodoo economics (rich get richer), 2) highway spending over public transit spending (we look like cavemen in regards to public transit compared to other developed nations and even some developing nations), 3) interventionism and massive military spending that goes to contractor buddies (destabilizing the world in the name of freedom so oligarchs get rich and they can claim we need to cut social programs because the military needs more money), and many other policies.

So no, you're entirely wrong on the Democratic party going far-left. It may look far left when you compare it to Republican policies, but in reality, Republican policies are just so insanely far to the right that any centrist policy looks far left. The Democratic Party would be centrist in almost all other developed nations. The Republican Party would probably be somewhere between conservative and right-wing populist theocratic fascism as evidence by 1) the heavy push for a police state (blue lives matter, long incarcerations, death penalty, punishment over rehabilitation in prisons, etc.), 2) the ultra-religious emphasis on everything from our money to our criminal law and penal codes, and 3) the near complete disregard and even hatred for anyone considered "other" by scapegoating them in the name of nationalism...oops I mean national security.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:00 AM
 
Location: New York City
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It's really not far left, though. Large public spending on social programs, education, infrastructure, etc. and high taxes was previously part of our country's history. It all just "coincidentally" happened during a massive boom for the entire US. When right wing politics of low taxes and low public spending on education, infrastructure, health care, social programs, etc. became the norm, everything got worse. Really all the left wing Democrats want to do is reinstate old policies that emphasize cohesion wherein the government acts to ensure that all its citizens are taken care of. We had the money to do so once; we have it still today, but it's just concentrated in the tiniest hands...I mean smallest number of hands...but also those tiny wittle hands.

OTOH, the Republican Party continues to slowly move further and further right wing closer and closer to policies which will not be named here. They chip away at all social programs little by little. They chip away at worker's rights little by little. They chip away at equality for all Americans little by little. They chip away at creating an equal start for all Americans by defunding public education and putting the burden on younger generations. They continue to promote failed policies like 1) trickle down voodoo economics (rich get richer), 2) highway spending over public transit spending (we look like cavemen in regards to public transit compared to other developed nations and even some developing nations), 3) interventionism and massive military spending that goes to contractor buddies (destabilizing the world in the name of freedom so oligarchs get rich and they can claim we need to cut social programs because the military needs more money), and many other policies.

So no, you're entirely wrong on the Democratic party going far-left. It may look far left when you compare it to Republican policies, but in reality, Republican policies are just so insanely far to the right that any centrist policy looks far left. The Democratic Party would be centrist in almost all other developed nations. The Republican Party would probably be somewhere between conservative and right-wing populist theocratic fascism as evidence by 1) the heavy push for a police state (blue lives matter, long incarcerations, death penalty, punishment over rehabilitation in prisons, etc.), 2) the ultra-religious emphasis on everything from our money to our criminal law and penal codes, and 3) the near complete disregard and even hatred for anyone considered "other" by scapegoating them in the name of nationalism...oops I mean national security.
All of this is a big reason why the Republican party scared away moderate voters. MY parents are examples of that. Suburbanites with moderate political views (very socially liberal), and they don't identify with the Republican party because even in our own state its absurd what it has become.

The blatant racism, homophobia, xenophobia, their disdain and denial toward social and welfare programs, and all in the name of God... the religious part scares me the most. Belief and worship what you want, but don't use your creepy religious views to promote a hateful backwards agenda.

Anyways... I don't consider most Philadelphia politicians to be far left (there are a few though, Helen Gym), they are more a part of the old school corrupt big city democratic machine, certainly no better...
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:15 AM
 
Location: New York City
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State of Center City...

https://www.centercityphila.org/uplo...c-2019-web.pdf

My comment from URBANPHL group with regard to the report...

Philadelphia is at a point where it will stay stuck UNLESS proper leadership is elected. Philadelphia has the history, arts, culture, institutions, dining, shopping (sorta), etc.
But it does not have the industry and jobs in order to sustain long term healthy growth. Montgomery County continues to attract industry and jobs and its not a coincidence, the business climate is much friendlier in the burbs and other large US cities.
Philadelphia leaders needs to make the economy, jobs, poverty, industry, infrastructure, etc. their primary focus in order to propel Center City and Philadelphia into the 21st century.
But sadly, not many current leaders and not many prospective leaders are focused on that, they are focused on rather trivial issues (like the abatement) as if that will solve our problems...Time to vote everyone!
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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I'm sorry, what is the revolutionary thinking this guy has done? He's wealthy and sits on a lot of boards, and...what? He's a centrist Dem. "he’s only trying to make sure the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing doesn’t send the Democrats over a cliff in 2020." Wow, such revolutionary thinking, lmao.
He has about as much, or way less, of an impact as Howard Schultz does right now.

Among the few business men who were making sense about running for prez was Mike Bloomberg and that was because he actually has a ton of experience managing a big politically-based bureaucracy. Few of these wannabes have that. And notice that Bloomberg was smart enough to step away from running.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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Call me crazy, but it might benefit Philadelphia to have an educated, successful business owning person who is truly involved with the civic and social affairs to lead the city...

I am confident that he wouldn't be worse than what we already have.

I don't know enough about him with regard to Presidential material, but certainly Philadelphia council or mayoral material.
So he needs to stay here and not jump on some ridiculous presidential run outting. It's too late for 2020 anyhow.
Townhalls schedules are already fixed afaik. And the first debate is in June.

And stop believing that business men per se are suited for public office.

Then he's in his 60s. Come on...it's same thing I keep saying: millennials, for the love God, if there's a 37 year old guy who is showing that you all can make waves so can you.
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Old 04-23-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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State of Center City...

https://www.centercityphila.org/uplo...c-2019-web.pdf

My comment from URBANPHL group with regard to the report...

Philadelphia is at a point where it will stay stuck UNLESS proper leadership is elected. Philadelphia has the history, arts, culture, institutions, dining, shopping (sorta), etc.
But it does not have the industry and jobs in order to sustain long term healthy growth. Montgomery County continues to attract industry and jobs and its not a coincidence, the business climate is much friendlier in the burbs and other large US cities.
Philadelphia leaders needs to make the economy, jobs, poverty, industry, infrastructure, etc. their primary focus in order to propel Center City and Philadelphia into the 21st century.
But sadly, not many current leaders and not many prospective leaders are focused on that, they are focused on rather trivial issues (like the abatement) as if that will solve our problems...Time to vote everyone!
Not only vote but RUN(for office).
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Old 04-23-2019, 02:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cpomp View Post
State of Center City...

https://www.centercityphila.org/uplo...c-2019-web.pdf

My comment from URBANPHL group with regard to the report...

Philadelphia is at a point where it will stay stuck UNLESS proper leadership is elected. Philadelphia has the history, arts, culture, institutions, dining, shopping (sorta), etc.
But it does not have the industry and jobs in order to sustain long term healthy growth. Montgomery County continues to attract industry and jobs and its not a coincidence, the business climate is much friendlier in the burbs and other large US cities.
Philadelphia leaders needs to make the economy, jobs, poverty, industry, infrastructure, etc. their primary focus in order to propel Center City and Philadelphia into the 21st century.
But sadly, not many current leaders and not many prospective leaders are focused on that, they are focused on rather trivial issues (like the abatement) as if that will solve our problems...Time to vote everyone!
While you are encouraging people to vote(American apathy about voting is appalling!)start reminding everyone that responding to the 2020 Census is absolutely vital, more vital than ever. Explain why it's important. Most people are probably clueless about what it really means and how important it is.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:14 AM
 
Location: New York City
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While you are encouraging people to vote(American apathy about voting is appalling!)start reminding everyone that responding to the 2020 Census is absolutely vital, more vital than ever. Explain why it's important. Most people are probably clueless about what it really means and how important it is.
It's especially important for the city, considering we would guaranteed get under-counted if they allow the citizenship question to get put in. The census has nothing to do with citizenship or even immigration status. It simply wants to know how many people are living in a given area at that given time, regardless if they are here legally or not. It's a racist attempt by the GOP to strip power away from Democratic areas (Philadelphia chief among them) as they continually have to keep cheating to hold power in a demographics battle they are surely losing.
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