Philadelphia 2035 (Montgomery, Republic, Howard: penalty, religious, school)

[jessemh431]

Originally Posted by Pennsport

I should probably look this up myself, but I have back to back meetings today. Question: Does the census breakdown sections of metropolitan areas or is just counties? I would love to see the stats on CC and near CC neighborhoods vs. parts of the NE and further out sections.

Also, what's the deal with Pittsburgh? I thought that city was started to reinvent itself and get "found" again...

I think like Chicago it's attracting the educated people as it reinvents itself into something more white collar. Meanwhile, the blue collar jobs continue to disappear and the residents who were previously in those industries are moving/retiring to FL/SC/NC/GA.

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by Pennsport

I should probably look this up myself, but I have back to back meetings today. Question: Does the census breakdown sections of metropolitan areas or is just counties? I would love to see the stats on CC and near CC neighborhoods vs. parts of the NE and further out sections.

Also, what's the deal with Pittsburgh? I thought that city was started to reinvent itself and get "found" again...

Just by county (at least for now), not sure if and when there will be a municipality breakdown.

And literally all of PA's population growth was on the Eastern half of the state, specifically the Southeast section... Go figure.

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Just by county (at least for now), not sure if and when there will be a municipality breakdown.

And literally all of PA's population growth was on the Eastern half of the state, specifically the Southeast section... Go figure.

Yep. Just a continuation of past trends. The southeastern quadrant of PA (essentially everything east of the Alleghenies and south of the Poconos) has solidified itself as the powerhouse of PA, due in no small part, of course, to being intimately tied to the Northeast Corridor.

Of course, this portion of the state already contains around 60% of the Pennsylvania's population, so it's just becoming more lopsided.

I do hope for the day when Pittsburgh can anchor a much larger-scale revival for Western PA. Obviously so much that region needs a real "jumpstart."

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by cpomp

https://www.philly.com/news/a/philad...-20190418.html

The numbers are in! Slow and steady for the region. Nothing groundbreaking, but every county is PA ended with small net gains, as well as New Castle County, DE. SJ con

For those who have a paywall, here are some stats...

2017-2018 Change

Chester: .6%, 3,112
Philadelphia: .2%, 3,917 people
Montgomery: .5%, 4,042 people
Delaware: .2%, 1,264l
Bucks: .2%, 1167

New Castle: .5%, 2,916 people

Gloucester: .2%, 558 people
Burlington: 0%, 188 people
Camden: .1%, 735 people


% Growth since 2010

Chester: 4.4%
Philadelphia: 3.7%
Montgomery: 3.5%
Delaware: 1%
Bucks: .4%

Gloucester: .8%
Burlington: (-.8%)
Camden: (-1.2%)

Its a shame Pittsburgh continues to lose residents. The expected areas (Texas and Florida) were the biggest gainers.

Is this data fine tuned enough that some of the Phila. area increase is out migration from NYC? NY has lost people over the last two years except for Staten Is.

[Nitro2985]

Originally Posted by cpomp

https://www.philly.com/politics/prim...-20190415.html

Is it me or are others not too enthused with the lineup presented here? A few positives in there though, I have to read up more on the people I like so far.

Also, what is the tax abatement suddenly the devil?

Ronald James Adams, Democrat:

Tax abatement reform. With a 26% percent poverty rate and our schools so under funded, it’s past time to enact legislation to either cap, slowly reduce or target the tax abatement in Philadelphia. I was happy that councilwoman Gym introduced tax abatement reform last year, and was disappointed it was tabled. If elected this will be the first piece of legislation I would champion.

So we are blaming the high poverty rate on the abatement now? Or am I missing something....?

The tax abatement is just a tax cut to the wealthy in the city since it only affects new construction, which is all for the wealthy. Philly already has a lower property tax rate than surrounding counties, but the abatement shifts the burden of paying for things like schools to the poor and drastically defunds these things while the rich send their kids to private schools and pay for high association fees in their condos to enjoy services that are then denied to the poor.


Do away with the tax abatement. The property tax rate in the city already means the tax burden for living in the city is less than the surrounding counties, even with the wage tax, until you make something like 130k a year, if you buy the same priced house. At that point, sending an extra few hundred to pay for municipal service is nothing to you.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by Nitro2985

The tax abatement is just a tax cut to the wealthy in the city since it only affects new construction, which is all for the wealthy. Philly already has a lower property tax rate than surrounding counties, but the abatement shifts the burden of paying for things like schools to the poor and drastically defunds these things while the rich send their kids to private schools and pay for high association fees in their condos to enjoy services that are then denied to the poor.


Do away with the tax abatement. The property tax rate in the city already means the tax burden for living in the city is less than the surrounding counties, even with the wage tax, until you make something like 130k a year, if you buy the same priced house. At that point, sending an extra few hundred to pay for municipal service is nothing to you.

Nope. It applies to both new construction and improvements to existing structures - the abatement then applies to the increased value attributable to the improvement.

As for the rest of your statement, you might want to look at city revenue collections since 2011, when the abatements on the first properties subject to it expired. The number of such properties has only increased with each passing year. You will find more comments from me on this subject either tomorrow or Tuesday on my channel on Phillymag.com.

[cpomp]

Is This Rich Middle-Aged White Guy From Texas the Most Revolutionary Thinker in Philly?

Richard Vague - Nice read. The article eventually focuses on a potential run for President, but I think he could do a lot more good for the city in which he resides. Mayor material?

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/...-philadelphia/

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

Nope. It applies to both new construction and improvements to existing structures - the abatement then applies to the increased value attributable to the improvement.

As for the rest of your statement, you might want to look at city revenue collections since 2011, when the abatements on the first properties subject to it expired. The number of such properties has only increased with each passing year. You will find more comments from me on this subject either tomorrow or Tuesday on my channel on Phillymag.com.

Yes. It's also any property that meets a minimum percentage increase to the property value. I forget the exact number but I think they have to put in at least 70% of the original value in upgrades or something to that effect.

I live in an abated condo building that comes to the end of the abatement in 2023. The building was built in 1850 and underwent transition to condo in 2007. The reason that the abatement goes until 2023 and not 2017 is that the clock starts when the developer sells the property, which in my case, didn't happen until 2013.

I hope by declaring my abated status here doesn't spark a groundswell of hate towards me.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Is This Rich Middle-Aged White Guy From Texas the Most Revolutionary Thinker in Philly?

Richard Vague - Nice read. The article eventually focuses on a potential run for President, but I think he could do a lot more good for the city in which he resides. Mayor material?

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/...-philadelphia/

I wonder when this was written because the first prez debates are in June. He won't qualify for those. The only technically unannounced candidate who will is Biden. And a bunch of those candidates will hopefully drop out after those debates. There are too many now.

Agreed, his talent is needed here.

[mslhu]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Is This Rich Middle-Aged White Guy From Texas the Most Revolutionary Thinker in Philly?

Richard Vague - Nice read. The article eventually focuses on a potential run for President, but I think he could do a lot more good for the city in which he resides. Mayor material?

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/...-philadelphia/

I'm sorry, what is the revolutionary thinking this guy has done? He's wealthy and sits on a lot of boards, and...what? He's a centrist Dem. "he’s only trying to make sure the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing doesn’t send the Democrats over a cliff in 2020." Wow, such revolutionary thinking, lmao.