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Old 05-15-2020, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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"This will help inform how we grapple with opening society. Philadelphia, not too dissimilar to New York, with high case rates as a result of density, travel and socioeconomic diversity, must open up in a measured, stepwise manner with extensive testing, contact tracing and treatment. But, for the rest of the state, as people come out of their homes cautiously and safely, if we protect our vulnerable seniors, particularly those in nursing homes, we should be able to keep case rates manageable, buying time to prepare for a potential resurgence as we bolster our supply chain and discover effective interventions."

https://inside.upmc.com/yealy-shapir...gLueqwEAbyvoKE
Also: I did note that the more rural parts of the state are reopening now. Are you arguing that the less rural parts of the state outside the Southeast should also?
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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I'll give you that.

I'll add, however, that the senior independent-living communities, many of which have assisted-living and memory-care wings, also seem not to be experiencing significant rates of infection.

Taken together with UPMC's experience, I'd have to say that a lot of people aren't following best practices in the nursing homes. But was there a requirement here, as there was in New York State, that nursing homes accept COVID patients?


The person to answer the question is Rachel Levine. Here has been her less than forthcoming response.

State Health Secretary Rachel Levine said nursing homes have always been a priority.

“I don’t think our initial and our continuing plans have been misguided at all,” Levine said at a May 4 news conference. “We have been working very hard throughout this entire process on protecting those homes as much as possible. It's a significant challenge, and we're continuing to do the very best we can.”

The outbreak of COVID-19 was always feared to be particularly acute among older populations in Pennsylvania, which has one of the highest numbers of nursing homes in the nation. But a growing chorus of providers, advocates, lawmakers, families, and residents now says that state officials were too slow to act and are still not doing enough to help.

In the meantime, some facilities have become death traps.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coro...-20200509.html
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Old 05-17-2020, 09:06 PM
 
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The more rural parts of Pennsylvania probably can open up now — and they are, according to the system Gov. Wolf set up.

But even though most of the COVID-19 deaths have occurred among the elderly, the virus is just unpredictable and serious enough that just getting us geezers out of the rest of you's hair isn't gonna cut it. Surely you've read the reports about some rare respiratory ailment now showing up in children; seems that's SARS-CoV-2 (the name given to the virus itself)-related.

Then there's this:

'I Wish I Could Do Something For You,' My Doctor Said | The New York Times

No co-morbidities. Early 30s. Healthy as a horse. Can't even walk a few blocks now without shortness of breath.

And I'm sure a story about a non-elderly person who came down with COVID-19, recovered, then suddenly took a serious turn for the worse, and even died, must have crossed your path; such stories have crossed mine.

Just reopening the country will produce more cases like these, trust me.
Another one of my cousins has it. She lives in Lansdowne. She's 68. One of my great nephews has a mild case so far. He lives in Charlotte, NC. He's 25. Both of them are like everyone else in my family: no drinking or smoking.
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Old 05-18-2020, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Delaware County has surpassed Philadelphia county for the average number of new cases per day over 14 days. Philadelphia is at 240 new cases per day. That's down from the high of 408 on April 25th.
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Old 05-19-2020, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Political cartoon: Feel exhausted after a Zoom meeting? There’s a reason

I thought some of the political cartoons in this were right on the money.

I am so sick of the commercials preaching togetherness while trying to make you buy a new car or something.

https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/fie...EDHMZO3DMU.jpg
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Old 05-19-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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Political cartoon: Feel exhausted after a Zoom meeting? There’s a reason

I thought some of the political cartoons in this were right on the money.

I am so sick of the commercials preaching togetherness while trying to make you buy a new car or something.

https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/fie...EDHMZO3DMU.jpg
+1000. If I hear another generic commercial say "during these uncertain times", I'm going to go crazy. Thankfully, I only listen to a couple radio stations (while cooking) and don't have to watch tv's commercials.
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I keep seeing articles by the restaurant industry pushing relaxation of city code for outdoor seating. I don't see how that could possibly work in Center City since our sidewalks are mostly 7 feet wide or less. In my experience over 90% of Center City restaurants, even before the virus, were in violation of pedestrian access. And you also have to contend with the Am. with Disabilities Act, which mandates a minimum of 3 feet open space for wheelchairs. My attachment shows 13th St. in front of Lolita's before the virus, and that is typical of 13th St. and much of Center City.



How's everyone doing amongst the Coronavirus shut down?-100_0051.jpg
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Old 05-19-2020, 07:51 PM
 
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I keep seeing articles by the restaurant industry pushing relaxation of city code for outdoor seating. I don't see how that could possibly work in Center City since our sidewalks are mostly 7 feet wide or less. In my experience over 90% of Center City restaurants, even before the virus, were in violation of pedestrian access. And you also have to contend with the Am. with Disabilities Act, which mandates a minimum of 3 feet open space for wheelchairs. My attachment shows 13th St. in front of Lolita's before the virus, and that is typical of 13th St. and much of Center City.



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Only place I would eat outside in center city is 2nd and Market. Walnut street is too narrow and too much pedestrian traffic.
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Old 05-20-2020, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Only place I would eat outside in center city is 2nd and Market. Walnut street is too narrow and too much pedestrian traffic.
Walnut Street's sidewalks, however, are wider than the typical width for Center City sidewalks, at least east of Broad.
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:27 AM
 
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I keep seeing articles by the restaurant industry pushing relaxation of city code for outdoor seating. I don't see how that could possibly work in Center City since our sidewalks are mostly 7 feet wide or less. In my experience over 90% of Center City restaurants, even before the virus, were in violation of pedestrian access. And you also have to contend with the Am. with Disabilities Act, which mandates a minimum of 3 feet open space for wheelchairs. My attachment shows 13th St. in front of Lolita's before the virus, and that is typical of 13th St. and much of Center City.



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Do you mean that you are not interested in being crammed between moving pedestrians with their dogs and other diners and let's not forget fast-moving traffic two feet away? I don't blame you, and the restaurants that are trying to reopen outdoor seating in places like you posted are not going to be solving much of anything because there is no space for social distancing.

My wife is European and loves eating outdoors. It is part of her culture, but she hates the outdoor seating in most of Center City. She doesn't understand why Americans like to sit near fast-moving traffic and moving pedestrians.
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