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Old 05-20-2020, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Only place I would eat outside in center city is 2nd and Market. Walnut street is too narrow and too much pedestrian traffic.
I myself never enjoyed eating outside, but do enjoy a coffee or drink outside while people watching. In fact I am yearning for it with the nice weather.
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Old 05-20-2020, 06:40 AM
 
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The more rural parts of Pennsylvania probably can open up now — and they are, according to the system Gov. Wolf set up.

But even though most of the COVID-19 deaths have occurred among the elderly, the virus is just unpredictable and serious enough that just getting us geezers out of the rest of you's hair isn't gonna cut it. Surely you've read the reports about some rare respiratory ailment now showing up in children; seems that's SARS-CoV-2 (the name given to the virus itself)-related.

Then there's this:

'I Wish I Could Do Something For You,' My Doctor Said | The New York Times

No co-morbidities. Early 30s. Healthy as a horse. Can't even walk a few blocks now without shortness of breath.

And I'm sure a story about a non-elderly person who came down with COVID-19, recovered, then suddenly took a serious turn for the worse, and even died, must have crossed your path; such stories have crossed mine.

Just reopening the country will produce more cases like these, trust me.
The stories of healthy young people dropping dead of COVID-19 are beginning to acquire the cult status of alligators in the sewers. My friend's cousin's ex-boyfriend's mother's neighbor swears she saw an alligator crawl out of a New York sewer.

Here's Pennsylvania's COVID-19 death data, broken down by ages, numbers for each age range and % of total deaths.

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/Doc...2020-05-17.pdf

<0-4 * *
5-9 * *
10-14 * *
15-19 * *
20-24 * *
25-29 * *
30-34 7 0.2%
35-39 5 0.1%
40-44 21 0.5%
45-49 45 1%
50-54 83 1.8%
55-59 146 3.2%
60-64 251 5.6%
65-69 354 7.9%
70-74 444 9.9%
75-79 512 11.4%
80-84 638 14.2%
85-89 800 17.8%
90-94 768 17.1%
95-99 341 7.6%
100-104 64 1.4%
105-109 6 0.1%

Keep in mind these add up to approx. 4300 deaths out of a statewide population of 13 million people.

Anyone can come down with COVID-19. That's never been a secret. All the stories of recovering from the virus reminds me of when I had the flu some years ago. Took me a few months to properly recover. I don't wish it on anyone. But it's helpful to have a proper perspective on the pandemic.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Center City
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I am so sick of the commercials preaching togetherness while trying to make you buy a new car or something.

https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/fie...EDHMZO3DMU.jpg
They annoy me, as well, but I’m finding I can be more easily irritated these days. Just look at my recent posts. But since we record everything, we don’t see too many commercials of any type.

That said, all of our media outlets - broadcast and print - are hungry for ad dollars. People are consuming more news than ever, all while their ad revenue is plummeting because many of the businesses that normally advertise are not operating. As society slowly opens, I can see travel-related businesses (e.g., airlines, hotels, rental cars) ramping up ads highlighting all the steps they are taking to ensure we have a germ-free experience.
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:00 AM
 
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Walnut Street's sidewalks, however, are wider than the typical width for Center City sidewalks, at least east of Broad.
i was referring to the 17th and walnut to 21st and walnut area.
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:06 AM
 
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i was referring to the 17th and walnut to 21st and walnut area.
I think the numbered streets are much worse. Or streets like Sansom. And setup has something to do with it. Parc has the right idea by putting a row of tables against the restaurant. I really don't like when restaurants put two rows, with one right on the curb, and then pedestrians have to cut between tables on both sides. That should not be allowed (and enforced!).
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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They annoy me, as well, but I’m finding I can be more easily irritated these days. Just look at my recent posts. But since we record everything, we don’t see too many commercials of any type.

That said, all of our media outlets - broadcast and print - are hungry for ad dollars. People are consuming more news than ever, all while their ad revenue is plummeting because many of the businesses that normally advertise are not operating. As society slowly opens, I can see travel-related businesses (e.g., airlines, hotels, rental cars) ramping up ads highlighting all the steps they are taking to ensure we have a germ-free experience.
We seem to be doing a little better than the industry as a whole at Phillymag in terms of advertiser retention; then again, the print mag's subscriber base has a median household income higher than that of any ZIP code in the region — including the wealthiest, 19035 (Gladwyne), just barely.

But frankly, and I imagine I'm speaking for my fellow media workers, we can't wait for the ad revenues to pick up to match the rise in readership. However, there is a problem: the rise is all Web traffic-based, and very few publications draw enough revenue from web advertising to support the kind of reporting operations the public needs right now. That's largely thanks to Facebook and Google, who have managed to set things up so that they vacuum up the overwhelming bulk of online ad revenue. (Yes, there's a rampant inequality problem in this area too, and once again, the haves have tilted the playing field further in their favor.)
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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i was referring to the 17th and walnut to 21st and walnut area.
okay. I'll check things out again when next I'm in that area, but I can tell you that the 1800 block also has a wide sidewalk.

But sidewalk cafe seating is also fairly scarce on that stretch of Walnut, probably because there aren't that many restaurants on it until you get to 20th Street. Joe Coffee, which does have sidewalk seating, is the only cafe I know of on the 1800 block, and east of there, the eateries consist of a McDonald's (imagine dining on Big Macs al fresco), a coal-oven pizzeria, a Starbucks and a Qdoba.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:00 PM
 
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I think the numbered streets are much worse. Or streets like Sansom. And setup has something to do with it. Parc has the right idea by putting a row of tables against the restaurant. I really don't like when restaurants put two rows, with one right on the curb, and then pedestrians have to cut between tables on both sides. That should not be allowed (and enforced!).
Yeah I am not a fan of eating near the traffic light lol
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:48 AM
 
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(imagine dining on Big Macs al fresco),
I can. No different from eating any other kind of "cuisine" outside.
You're eating. You're outside....and enjoying the weather. (and exhaust fumes)
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Old 05-21-2020, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I can. No different from eating any other kind of "cuisine" outside.
You're eating. You're outside....and enjoying the weather. (and exhaust fumes)
Maybe I should have just said "imagine dining on Big Macs."

Which I have, often enough, FTR.

But I'll take a Primo's hoagie al fresco over a Big Mac same.
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