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Old 02-08-2023, 08:44 AM
 
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........ I first had one at a Comcast media party at Citizens Bank Park, where the (Black, female) proprietor of a restaurant that served them was offering them to attendees.
This is a case where the race and gender of the person are completely irrelevant. IMO.
So why mention them?
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:52 AM
 
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The last time I had a Philly Cheesesteak was at a Jersey Mike's not in Philly, very generic but not too bad for what it was.
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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The last time I had a Philly Cheesesteak was at a Jersey Mike's not in Philly, very generic but not too bad for what it was.
Where is Jersey Mike's?
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Old 02-08-2023, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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This is a case where the race and gender of the person are completely irrelevant. IMO.
So why mention them?
A reference to the origins of the salmon cheesesteak. At the time (2017), I don't think anyone who wasn't Black was making these.

There was a shop near where I used to live in East Germantown that had a sign boasting it was the "home of the best salmon cheesesteak." That was the first time I'd heard of the sandwich (I moved to East Germantown in 2013). I tried going there on several occasions to order one, but the shop was very poorly run with inconsistent hours of operation, and whenever I went there, it wasn't open.
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Old 02-08-2023, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Where is Jersey Mike's?
Like Jimmy John's, Jersey Mike's is a chain with thousands of locations across the country.

At least it was founded in New Jersey and still based there.
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:44 PM
 
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First time I ever had a cheesesteak was when daughter and I went on a tour of the Correctional Facility in Philly. Her friend lived in Philly and recommended a place. Daughter is a Vegan so only I had it. Very good.

Couple of things. When we lived in Florida, husband was always complaining he could not get good ROLLS there. They are fine in PA, as were in NY.

I am not a fan of American Cheese, though. Forget Cheese Whiz or Velveeta. I prefer Cheddar. I have seen a few places here in Poconos which give a choice of American or Provolone for their cheesesteaks.

Shredded Rib Eye? I buy whole tenderloins at BJ's. Cut them into steaks for grilling and shred the smaller ends which I use for stir fry. Nothing beats tenderloin! The method for cooking the beef is exactly the same. Very fast and very high heat. I don't have a flat top grill but cast iron skillet works just fine.

You all have given me the inspiration to try to cook my own cheesesteaks. BTW, I gotta have my fresh MUSHROOMS as well!
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Old 02-08-2023, 02:25 PM
 
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First time I ever had a cheesesteak was when daughter and I went on a tour of the Correctional Facility in Philly. Her friend lived in Philly and recommended a place. Daughter is a Vegan so only I had it. Very good.

Couple of things. When we lived in Florida, husband was always complaining he could not get good ROLLS there. They are fine in PA, as were in NY.

I am not a fan of American Cheese, though. Forget Cheese Whiz or Velveeta. I prefer Cheddar. I have seen a few places here in Poconos which give a choice of American or Provolone for their cheesesteaks.

Shredded Rib Eye? I buy whole tenderloins at BJ's. Cut them into steaks for grilling and shred the smaller ends which I use for stir fry. Nothing beats tenderloin! The method for cooking the beef is exactly the same. Very fast and very high heat. I don't have a flat top grill but cast iron skillet works just fine.

You all have given me the inspiration to try to cook my own cheesesteaks. BTW, I gotta have my fresh MUSHROOMS as well!
Tenderloin is, well, tender. But it has fairly little flavor and not enough fat to taste like anything but shoe leather when cooked well-done. That’s why ribeye is preferred. Even sirloin, which has a similar fat content but far more flavor, is better (and sometimes used accordingly).

As for cheddar cheese, I suppose the mildest and least aged of cheddars (which in large part constitute American cheese) would be fine. But don’t go telling your friends about it.

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Like Jimmy John's, Jersey Mike's is a chain with thousands of locations across the country.

At least it was founded in New Jersey and still based there.
While I’m not surprised that their cheesesteaks are subpar, as far as their regular subs go, Jersey Mike’s is fairly decent. I wouldn’t choose it over a local mom and pop shop, or a more local chain like Primo. But as far as nationwide long sandwich purveyors go, they might be the very best.
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Old 02-08-2023, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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First time I ever had a cheesesteak was when daughter and I went on a tour of the Correctional Facility in Philly. Her friend lived in Philly and recommended a place. Daughter is a Vegan so only I had it. Very good.

Couple of things. When we lived in Florida, husband was always complaining he could not get good ROLLS there. They are fine in PA, as were in NY.

I am not a fan of American Cheese, though. Forget Cheese Whiz or Velveeta. I prefer Cheddar. I have seen a few places here in Poconos which give a choice of American or Provolone for their cheesesteaks.

Shredded Rib Eye? I buy whole tenderloins at BJ's. Cut them into steaks for grilling and shred the smaller ends which I use for stir fry. Nothing beats tenderloin! The method for cooking the beef is exactly the same. Very fast and very high heat. I don't have a flat top grill but cast iron skillet works just fine.

You all have given me the inspiration to try to cook my own cheesesteaks. BTW, I gotta have my fresh MUSHROOMS as well!
Slice, don't shred. And make the slices thin. Not deli-sandwich thin, but thin.

Otherwise, what ElijahAstin said. And don't use the really good aged Cheddar — it will separate on the grill. Seriously: if you can find processed Cheddar (I bought some recently at the Grocery Outlet up my way), go for it for your cheesesteaks to get the proper melt. Or use Provolone, which doesn't separate, instead.
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:13 PM
 
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Jo48 First time I ever had a cheesesteak was when daughter and I went on a tour of the Correctional Facility in Philly. Her friend lived in Philly and recommended a place. Daughter is a Vegan so only I had it. Very good.
Did you tour Eastern State Penitentiary? If so, that is such a worthwhile tour, very interesting.

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Couple of things. When we lived in Florida, husband was always complaining he could not get good ROLLS there. They are fine in PA, as were in NY.
A good Italian Roll can make or break a cheesesteak or hoagie.
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:14 PM
 
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I should have expected this topic to set off sparks but I don't think I've had a cheesesteak in...5 years? But I am positive it was from Dalessandros's provolone and onion. The only "local" cuisine I am particular about is shoofly pie which I only recently have seen in some grocery stores around here.
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