West Valley area advice (Phoenix, Scottsdale: houses, to live in, restaurant)

[AzScorpion12]

Originally Posted by wase4711

I just got back from the Willow area of Phoenix, and to my house it was 32 minutes at 230pm

Case closed

That's unacceptable! You're just to far out in the west valley!!

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by wase4711

I just got back from the Willow area of Phoenix, and to my house it was 32 minutes at 230pm

Case closed

Exactly.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Gixxer1K

That's unacceptable! You're just to far out in the west valley!!

I know you’re trying to be cute, but no one said that. To claim that something is close by when it takes over a half hour to get to with no traffic is ridiculous.

[AzScorpion12]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

I know you’re trying to be cute, but no one said that. To claim that something is close by when it takes over a half hour to get to with no traffic is ridiculous.

I guess that's a matter of opinion because back east driving 20-30 minutes is normal and really no big deal. Trust me when I say the roads are horrible there so driving 30 minutes here is really no big deal. Anything close is a convenience but 30 minutes is not ridiculous. It seems like everyone here needs things to be within 5-10 minutes of them,maybe you're spoiled now since you've been here a while now.

[wase4711]

Originally Posted by Gixxer1K

That's unacceptable! You're just to far out in the west valley!!

You're probably right; I think I will sell my house and move to Scottsdale so I can be closer to my good friends from City Data..

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Gixxer1K

I guess that's a matter of opinion because back east driving 20-30 minutes is normal and really no big deal. Trust me when I say the roads are horrible there so driving 30 minutes here is really no big deal. Anything close is a convenience but 30 minutes is not ridiculous. It seems like everyone here needs things to be within 5-10 minutes of them,maybe you're spoiled now since you've been here a while now.

It’s not a matter of needing anything within 5-10 minutes. It’s about calling a spade a spade. I don’t think many would consider a 50 mile round trip of over an hour with no traffic to be somewhere close.

[Finger Laker]

Litchfield Greens is a gated HOA community that is in Litchfield Park. My wife likes that area and the "village" right near it. These are the newer home options Litchfield Park.

I prefer old Litchfield Park between the walls - basically between Camelback and Indian School as well as Dysart and Litchfield Rd

I like the feel of that neighbourhood, being able to walk or bike to the Wigwam, rec center, library, restaurants/bars. Really quiet area.

[Finger Laker]

Here is a FAQ and a link to the boundary map for Litchfield Park. Good info

Litchfield Park, AZ

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

It’s not a matter of needing anything within 5-10 minutes. It’s about calling a spade a spade. I don’t think many would consider a 50 mile round trip of over an hour with no traffic to be somewhere close.

It depends on the semantics. Fountain Hills is "close" to Scottsdale because it is a town away. Yet based off of your litmus test of Scottsdale==Old Town, it takes over a 1/2 an hour to get to there. And to make it sound worse to prove a point, you said it's "over an hour round trip with no traffic". No one is arguing that being 30 minutes away is "close" in a literal sense. We aren't dumb. People are putting it in context. I'm rational know that Fountain Hills IS "close" to Scottsdale. It's one darn town away.

So by your definition, nothing is close in the PHX area. if if explained properly, that's true. Because no matter where you are, it is a hike to get to ______________.

To more that a few of us, it's pretty obvious you have a bias of not living farther out. We get that. If I had to drive around for a living like the ops hubby, I sure and the hell not live in Surprise. At minimum, I'd be sure to get close to an internal highway so that I could cover some ground. And that was exactly what wase4711 pointed out. his area factually could meet her criteria. A ranch home with options closer to her rental in Surprise AND not-so-far way from the major arteries that can get to somewhere MUCH faster.

But you had to add in a dig with "far flung". There are 50 data points with your digs. Yea, we get it. You would rather poke your eyes out than live in the outer burbs. And God forbid in a town where 130,000 + people live because they have a lot of strip malls. It would be like someone constantly calling PHX "brown hills", smog infested, hotter than Hell, bla bla bla whenever they had the chance. Some people have pride in their choices and can grasp the trade-offs. I'm sure the opp can see the map and realize the areas she is choosing is on the outer belt.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

It depends on the semantics. Fountain Hills is "close" to Scottsdale because it is a town away. Yet based off of your litmus test of Scottsdale==Old Town, it takes over a 1/2 an hour to get to there. And to make it sound worse to prove a point, you said it's "over an hour round trip with no traffic". No one is arguing that being 30 minutes away is "close" in a literal sense. We aren't dumb. People are putting it in context. I'm rational know that Fountain Hills IS "close" to Scottsdale. It's one darn town away.

So by your definition, nothing is close in the PHX area. if if explained properly, that's true. Because no matter where you are, it is a hike to get to ______________.

To more that a few of us, it's pretty obvious you have a bias of not living farther out. We get that. If I had to drive around for a living like the ops hubby, I sure and the hell not live in Surprise. At minimum, I'd be sure to get close to an internal highway so that I could cover some ground. And that was exactly what wase4711 pointed out. his area factually could meet her criteria. A ranch home with options closer to her rental in Surprise AND not-so-far way from the major arteries that can get to somewhere MUCH faster.

But you had to add in a dig with "far flung". There are 50 data points with your digs. Yea, we get it. You would rather poke your eyes out than live in the outer burbs. And God forbid in a town where 130,000 + people live because they have a lot of strip malls. It would be like someone constantly calling PHX "brown hills", smog infested, hotter than Hell, bla bla bla whenever they had the chance. Some people have pride in their choices and can grasp the trade-offs. I'm sure the opp can see the map and realize the areas she is choosing is on the outer belt.

Dude, I live in the outer burbs. I'm fully aware of the trade-offs. Having pride in your choices isn't sugarcoating things to the point of being dishonest. People buy further out for a variety of reasons and there's nothing wrong with that; I never said that there was. I have a problem with people doing so and downplaying the negatives though. It comes across as insecure or regretting their decision. Just own it. Further out if further out.

Again, far NW Phoenix isn't close to "everything Scottsdale/Phoenix". Why you continue to argue otherwise is dumbfounding. Arguing that nothing is close so everything must be is equally foolish. Look at 85018. That's close to MOST things Phoenix/Scottsdale. It exists.