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Old 09-04-2019, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Thanks everyone, a lot of advice all over the map (literally).

This bunch can and will argue about anything.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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This bunch can and will argue about anything.
I disagree.
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Old 09-04-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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I am a mid 30s African American guy, single, no kids, who needs to live near a good gym and a Whole Foods or similar grocery store. I love sporting events and have owned season tickets to the local sports teams for years, and imagine would buy Suns or Cardinals tickets as well.

Any advice welcome.
One words of advice - Biltmore. First thing that came to mind when reading your post. Downtown is underwhelming, Old Town too touristy and fratty, N. Scottsdale too homogenous. Biltmore? Perfect fit.
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Old 09-04-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: downtown phoenix
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One words of advice - Biltmore. First thing that came to mind when reading your post. Downtown is underwhelming, Old Town too touristy and fratty, N. Scottsdale too homogenous. Biltmore? Perfect fit.
I like Biltmore but it is about a strong zero on the walkability scale.
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Old 09-04-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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Default this tidbit of info might be helpful...

https://www.tripsavvy.com/arizona-di...moving-2677834
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Old 09-04-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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I like Biltmore but it is about a strong zero on the walkability scale.
If someone is moving to Phoenix expecting a walkable urban environment they should [have their head examined] do better research and look where Phoenix falls in the ratings of walkable cities
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:05 AM
 
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Don't forget, most of Phoenix is flat as a pancake, so a basic bike will work wonders. I did two years at N 8th St., and IS, no car, no problems. Walkscore currently 66...groceries were a bit far, like 1 mile, but had 99 cents only very close, and Walgreens even closer.. I ate like a king. Saw one guy hit on his bike, by another loser that doesn't stop before the pedestrian crosswalk, and was not seriously injured. And lots of Prius owners think they don't need to stop. Pretty tame compared to Bangkok, though.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:42 AM
 
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I like Biltmore but it is about a strong zero on the walkability scale.
For Biltmore, I plugged 4525 N 22nd St, Phoenix, AZ 85016 as an address (LaBrezza Condos) and came up as a walkability score of 66. Considered "somewhat walkable". For fun, I plugged my address in Surprise and it came back with a 53 or "Some errands can be accomplished on foot".

As Hal mentioned, with a bicycle, you can cover some ground fast. Even with "decent" score of 53, I have 3 fast food locations, a grocery store, a nice independent restaurant, Bashes (with a deli), and a strip mall inside of a 5 minute walk. On bike and in under 10 minutes, I can be at one of 4 grocery stores, a movie theater, bowling, and about 20 restaurants.

In the 55-65 walkabilty range, you need a car and get pretty much any necessities within a 3-10 minute drive. With my so-so 53 score, we bike to a coffee shops as well as a restaurant with ease. As others have mentioned, pick a spot close to work which is arguably more important to most. My workplace is in my home or on a cell phone in the car or on my boat. I'm not sure what that score would be called: maybe the freedom and quality of life score? But I'd take a walkability score of 10 so long as I have a high freedom score. In fact, my walkability score on a lake in northern MN where my butt is planted is precisely a pathetic walkability score of 10. Trade-offs.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:46 PM
 
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One words of advice - Biltmore. First thing that came to mind when reading your post. Downtown is underwhelming, Old Town too touristy and fratty, N. Scottsdale too homogenous. Biltmore? Perfect fit.

I'd go with the opposite, Biltmore is nice but it's boring after a few trips. Downtown Phoenix may be small but there are a lot of interesting places to check out the likes of which will never be found at Biltmore. To name a few- Melindas Alley, Valley Bar, Hannys, Floor 13, Van Buren, Crescent Ballroom, Cobra, Bitter and Twisted, Sazerac, Stardust Pinbar, Lost Leaf, Centrico, Paz Cantina, Dressing Room, State 48 brewery, AZ Wilderness, Mother Bunch brewing, Angels Trumpet, Filmbar, everything that is Roosevelt Row...



Biltmore is pretty boring by comparison.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:34 PM
 
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I'd go with the opposite, Biltmore is nice but it's boring after a few trips. Downtown Phoenix may be small but there are a lot of interesting places to check out the likes of which will never be found at Biltmore. To name a few- Melindas Alley, Valley Bar, Hannys, Floor 13, Van Buren, Crescent Ballroom, Cobra, Bitter and Twisted, Sazerac, Stardust Pinbar, Lost Leaf, Centrico, Paz Cantina, Dressing Room, State 48 brewery, AZ Wilderness, Mother Bunch brewing, Angels Trumpet, Filmbar, everything that is Roosevelt Row...



Biltmore is pretty boring by comparison.
Great post, totally agree. I wish Paz was better. I’ve sworn off that place. I’ll offer up Taco Chelo in its place though.
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