Is the illegal immigration getting better? (Cave Creek: apartment, credit, how much)

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by Lovegun

I really hate it when people say this. So your saying Mexicans will do jobs Americans are unwilling? I think its more like Americans can't compete with the low wages Mexicans will work for, therefore they have the upper-hand. Also, what about states that have a low "illegal" population, oh wait there are Americans doing those jobs...

Not defending anyone, but I'd replace "Mexican" with an illegal or illegal immigrant; from recent ICE deportations, its been shown that many illegals aren't Mexican but travel through Mexico to get into the U.S. As much as we want illegals to understand their first action is illegal, we must not stereotype and call all illegals "Mexican."

Boab: what you describe in the U.K. mirrors the issues in the U.S. almost to the letter...infact, many issues most Western European countries are dealing with regarding illegal immigration is much the same as in the U.S.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

Not defending anyone, but I'd replace "Mexican" with an illegal or illegal immigrant; from recent ICE deportations, its been shown that many illegals aren't Mexican but travel through Mexico to get into the U.S. As much as we want illegals to understand their first action is illegal, we must not stereotype and call all illegals "Mexican."

Boab: what you describe in the U.K. mirrors the issues in the U.S. almost to the letter...infact, many issues most Western European countries are dealing with regarding illegal immigration is much the same as in the U.S.

And to buttress your argument: many Spanish speaking Mestizo OTM's try to pass themselves off as 'Mexican' if picked up by ICE to avoid deportation to Guatemala, El Salvador, etc.

[Scots Boab]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

Not defending anyone, but I'd replace "Mexican" with an illegal or illegal immigrant; from recent ICE deportations, its been shown that many illegals aren't Mexican but travel through Mexico to get into the U.S. As much as we want illegals to understand their first action is illegal, we must not stereotype and call all illegals "Mexican."

Boab: what you describe in the U.K. mirrors the issues in the U.S. almost to the letter...infact, many issues most Western European countries are dealing with regarding illegal immigration is much the same as in the U.S.

Did you know that countries like France build refuge centres for immigrants to wait in free of charge untill they reach the UK!?!Legaly or illeagally!!
unbelievable!!
Yet nothing is said or done about it!!!!
That is like a country neighbouring yourself harbouring immigrants free of charge until they decide to cross the border to yourselves legaly or otherwise?

[cmist]

Originally Posted by Scots Boab

Did you know that countries like France build refuge centres for immigrants to wait in free of charge untill they reach the UK!?!Legaly or illeagally!!
unbelievable!!
Yet nothing is said or done about it!!!!
That is like a country neighbouring yourself harbouring immigrants free of charge until they decide to cross the border to yourselves legaly or otherwise?

So, the french and english are still at it, huh? lol

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by Scots Boab

Did you know that countries like France build refuge centres for immigrants to wait in free of charge untill they reach the UK!?!Legaly or illeagally!!
unbelievable!!
Yet nothing is said or done about it!!!!
That is like a country neighbouring yourself harbouring immigrants free of charge until they decide to cross the border to yourselves legaly or otherwise?

I did; it is so the French can avoid permanent location by these immigrants into France which is having much trouble with its blighted immigrant ghettos and projects. So they are passing off the problem...I've been told by Spanish relatives and German coworkers and friends that they are coming into their nations from France as well...do you know much about that?

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

I did; it is so the French can avoid permanent location by these immigrants into France which is having much trouble with its blighted immigrant ghettos and projects. So they are passing off the problem...I've been told by Spanish relatives and German coworkers and friends that they are coming into their nations from France as well...do you know much about that?

And I hope to God that all parties involved start pitching those 'immigrants' who are in their respective countries illegally out--------and, return 'em to their homelands.

[cmist]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

And I hope to God that all parties involved start pitching those 'immigrants' who are in their respective countries illegally out--------and, return 'em to their homelands.

Can't we somehow sail ours off to France where they have camps set up for this type of thing?

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by cmist

Can't we somehow sail ours off to France where they have camps set up for this type of thing?

Imagine the cost of that!

Then France would just send them back to other countries, including us...LOL! Those French... LOL

[cmist]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

Imagine the cost of that!

Then France would just send them back to other countries, including us...LOL! Those French... LOL

How about if they just stay in perpetual transport between the 2 places? Give them deckhand jobs and the like... Heck if they would consider upgrading it to a cruise ship, I'd consider going illegal.

[azjack]

"Heck if they would consider upgrading it to a cruise ship, I'd consider going illegal."

You already had your "breaking bad" moment at the tribal casino, so you may as well go full outlaw.


But to address the thread question, there seems to be less illegal alien presence in AZ due to both severe recession, and stricter hiring regulations under state law.