Republicans survive Recall effort in WI, what will happen in PA, PGH?

[creepsinc]

Why do "liberals" always produce facts and/or statistics and "conservatives" just spout, sometimes word for word, crap I used to hear on the radio before I got sick of listening to it?

[hnsq]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

First of all, it is UC (Unemployment Compensation) not UI.

If you are laid off your job there is a 1 - 2 week waiting period to start collecting UC, it is calculated at one half of your former regular salary and it expires in 6 months.

6 months ... not 2 years. See www.uc.pa.gov

If you lose your job, nearly always you lose your health insurance benefits as well ... but you can continue those under the laws regarding COBRA. 95% of all unemployed people do not continue their health insurance under COBRA because it is so expensive. When most people's income is cut in half they are not going to shell out $600, $700, $800 a month to pay the premiums.

I do not think Unemployment Compensation is a bad thing, and the word "entitlement" is not a bad word. The people of the US have built a great nation where there are safety nets to help you get on your feet again if you are laid off your job.

I would just love to see one of these "personal responsibility" types lose their job, have to go through their entire life savings looking for work, have their house foreclosed on by the bank, and then turned away at the hospital emergency room because of no insurance or not enough money to pay. Not really, I'm just kidding. Fortunately you can collect Unemployment, there are programs distressed homeowners can take advantage of, and the hospital emergency room will not turn you away.

That is why we are lucky to live here and not in one of those low tax paradises like Somalia or Haiti.

First of all, can we debate the issues, not the acronyms? Second of all, who in their right mind does not have a backup plan in place to begin with? Personally? I have sold everything I owned other than what fit in my car, packed up and moved across the country within two months just to find a job and not be unemployed. How many people on UC (did I get the acronym right this time? Since that really affects the content of the debate? ) even consider doing something like that?

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

First of all, it is UC (Unemployment Compensation) not UI.

If you are laid off your job there is a 1 - 2 week waiting period to start collecting UC, it is calculated at one half of your former regular salary and it expires in 6 months.

6 months ... not 2 years. See www.uc.pa.gov

Actually it is currently 99 weeks that you can collect UC currently.....federal extensions kick in after the state's 26 weeks expire.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by creepsinc

Why do "liberals" always produce facts and/or statistics and "conservatives" just spout, sometimes word for word, crap I used to hear on the radio before I got sick of listening to it?

The trite response is that reality has a liberal bias.

Somewhat more interesting is the case, made by people like Richard Posner, that conservatives largely won on most of their key policy issues in recent decades (except for things like gay marriage), and now are pushing into the fringes where there simply isn't any room for them to create well-supported distance from liberals. In other words, concessions by liberals have forced them to become extremely radical and that leads to being at odds with reality.

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by hnsq

I have sold everything I owned other than what fit in my car, packed up and moved across the country within two months just to find a job and not be unemployed. How many people on UC (did I get the acronym right this time? Since that really affects the content of the debate? ) even consider doing something like that?

I've done it twice. Once in each direction.