01-04-2013, 11:22 AM
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We're moving to the area in the spring, but still haven't decided whether to live north or south. My husband works downtown at the Highmark building, so commute time is his highest priority.
Does anyone have experience commuting from West View/Ross Twp. to downtown, using the parking at the stadiums and taking the T+ downtown? How often do home games mess up daily parking? What is the drive like?
Alternately, how is the commute in from Mt. Lebanon on the T? Do the trains fill up quickly during rush hour? Do any Mt. Lebo area stations have parking in case we can't get a place within walking distance to a station?
01-04-2013, 11:53 AM
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Having lived in both places, I would choose Lebo if he is 9-5 all week.
01-04-2013, 12:52 PM
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There's a parking garage above the Mt. Lebo T station but I'm not sure if commuters use it regularly...seems to be more for the business district than anything else. The Castle Shannon station is not far and there's a decent sized parking lot there...I've also seen people leaving their cars near the Poplar stop and catching the train in from there, but most neighbors don't like commuters parking in front of their house all day.
The train shouldn't be full by the time it gets to Lebo. I used to catch the T every morning from Potomac station and there were usually still a few seats left. They helped things out a few years ago when they decided to route all SHV rush hour traffic over the blue line, which allows the red line to serve more as a local that terminates at Castle Shannon. Not only freed up seats on the red line, but also sped up the trip between downtown and SHV.
01-04-2013, 01:05 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Brookline)
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I take the T to town every day from Lebo. It takes me about 22 minutes from Mt. Lebanon Station to Steel Plaza. I would add another 5 minutes on top of that to get to Gateway (where he would get off). I usually don't have a problem getting a seat. I don't have any experience with parking in the morning because I walk, but I would recommend driving 5 minutes down to Castle Shannon and parking in their free lot.
The drive from Westview/Ross would probably be in the 20 minute range, plus $5 (ish)dollars to park on the North Shore. I have no idea what it's like on game days but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a game day rate.
01-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Location: Pittsburgh
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From Ross you can take the Ross Flyer bus, less than 15 minutes to town by way of the HOV lane in the middle of I279.
There is a park and ride right on US 19 near Cemetery Lane.
I would think that's got to be faster than an LRT car from Mt. Lebanon with all the stops in Dormont and Beechview that have to be made.
In addition, the O1 Ross Flyer stops right at Highmark in town.
01-06-2013, 10:35 AM
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From Ross you can take the Ross Flyer bus, less than 15 minutes to town by way of the HOV lane in the middle of I279.
There is a park and ride right on US 19 near Cemetery Lane.
I would think that's got to be faster than an LRT car from Mt. Lebanon with all the stops in Dormont and Beechview that have to be made.
In addition, the O1 Ross Flyer stops right at Highmark in town.
I live in Ross and work downtown. I used to take the Ross Flyer buss from the park-n-ride. But with the last transit cuts and the removal the Cranberry park-n-ride route the Ross parking lot is now overcrowded. Getting a spot after about 7:30 AM can be a challenge.
I switched to driving to the north shore and taking the T+ to Wood Street when it opened. It's about 25-30 minutes inbound and 40-45 outbound. On days you add a ballgame to that add 10-15 outbound. This could be less if the city enforced the parking and used the multi-directional lanes on West General Robinson, but they don't and it can be frustrating.
It's not much of a concern for me personally as I ride my motorcycle (you can ride a motorcyle as a single passenger on the HOV lane) so I only have to put up with it when there is a ballgame and its raining all day and I don't ride since the HOV exit/entrance is right next to the garage and lots.
01-06-2013, 03:28 PM
Location: Squirrel Hill
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Ross is not a bad commute to downtown, ML is probably slightly better but not a drastic difference. I would not chose between them solely based on commute. Personally I like the North much better than the South Hills but each areas has reasons to like it and thus its devoted fans.
01-06-2013, 05:12 PM
Location: Pittsburgh area
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If it was purely driving, Ross wins IMO at least for commute alone. With the T and working specifically downtown, Mt Lebanon starts to feel nicer, but it really depends upon what you like. I'm more familiar with the north but can see the appeal of Mt Lebo.
Games don't mess up North Shore parking too much. They do kill some parking for Pirates day games, which is maybe 10x a year? And then sometimes a Thursday night or Monday night Steelers game in the fall could mess things up. But it's probably a dozen times a year max. The regular night Pirate games I would think you'd be beating most of that traffic out. Certain Friday night games can be popular.
There are also buses to consider from Ross area that would negate the need to drive to the North Shore. That could be an option either all the time or perhaps for more convenience only when you know there's a game affecting things.
Then again, the T from Mt Leb won't really be a problem with any of those things. It has its own issues at time, the main one being for the distance it still takes a while. In some cases the Ross commute might be shorter time-wise even than a T commute from Mt Lebanon.
01-07-2013, 08:24 AM
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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The commute from Lebo is very easy whether you are driving or taking the T. The commute from Ross is hit or miss and "Mcknightmare" Road is not very much fun, especially if you live closer to McCandless and need to drive it for any amount of time. I would say the commute from Lebo is easier mainly because you have multiple routes and access to the T.
01-08-2013, 10:53 AM
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From my experience, the commute from ross is a major pain in the ***. First unless you live right on mcknight road (you probably won't) you will be fighting traffic on local level streets and perry hwy. Perry hwy being only 2 lanes is a nightmare especially with all the lights. Secondly the express bus comes once every ten minutes to the park and ride at the end of the HOV lane. It is exceptionally crowded at all times between around 6:30a to 8:30a. You will be more than likely standing unless by some miracle you are first in line for the next bus. Third the HOV lane the bus takes ends about a mile from downtown into the ft duquesne bridge. Now you might ask why is that a problem. Well the Ft duquesne bridge is almost always a complete cluster**** in the mornings. As a matter of fact one time it was so bad I got on the next earlier bus than i wanted to and was still late for work.
Now you can always drive in. Like somebody said before me its not too bad its only about a 15 minute drive to lots on the north shore where its only 5 dollars to park all day. Well thats all fine and dandy but be prepared either for a nice wait for the shuttle and its ride downtown (about an additional 20 minutes or more depending on traffic and how many other people are waiting for that shuttle). Or a nice hike downtown on foot (which would probably take a relatively fit person 15 minutes but also in pittsburghs lovely weather you know where almost every day is guaranteed to be rainy snowy or hot).
Also if theres an event in town don't even bother trying to drive to work you're guaranteed to be late because you won't be able to find a parking spot to save your life. One time i tried this there was a sports game and a concert on the same day. I drove around for 45 minutes to 10 different garages before i found one not completely full.
Unfortunately I can't weigh in on the flip side of this Mt Lebanon, Ive never lived there but I have to imagine multi car LRT trains on private rights of way for the most part must be quicker than the mess I go through up here in Ross. I would love to have someone from down there weigh in as well.
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People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)