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Old 01-19-2015, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It’s not an insane amount of growth, its reshuffling of what is already there. When Settlers Ridge opened in Robinson, it simply stole a majority of it’s tenants from places like Moon and North Fayette.
The same can be said of Westinghouse.

I never said the economy is good in Pittsburgh. I am only saying that people are choosing the burbs over the inner city at this time. Which they are.
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Old 01-19-2015, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The same can be said of Westinghouse.

I never said the economy is good in Pittsburgh. I am only saying that people are choosing the burbs over the inner city at this time. Which they are.
One of the primary drives behind this, of course, is that EMPLOYERS are choosing the 'burbs over the city.

What sense does it really make to live in the city, with its associated hassles and high taxes, when your employer is in Cranberry Township?
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Stanton Heights
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One of the primary drives behind this, of course, is that EMPLOYERS are choosing the 'burbs over the city.

What sense does it really make to live in the city, with its associated hassles and high taxes, when your employer is in Cranberry Township?
It only makes sense if you enjoy living in the city My husband used to work out in Robinson and never once did we consider moving out there. No way jose.

Anyway, in the last couple years, the city's population has stopped shrinking and started growing again. And I know this is total anecdata but I personally know of three businesses that have recently closed their suburban offices and moved all their employees into their city office. (Not downsizing workforce, epanding city office space to accomodate all personnel.) But given how much current pressure there is on housing in the city, I wouldn't want the growth to be too fast. The housing market needs time to catch up.
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Old 01-19-2015, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It only makes sense if you enjoy living in the city My husband used to work out in Robinson and never once did we consider moving out there. No way jose.

Anyway, in the last couple years, the city's population has stopped shrinking and started growing again. And I know this is total anecdata but I personally know of three businesses that have recently closed their suburban offices and moved all their employees into their city office. (Not downsizing workforce, epanding city office space to accomodate all personnel.) But given how much current pressure there is on housing in the city, I wouldn't want the growth to be too fast. The housing market needs time to catch up.
Yep. Agreed.

I think a lot of it is driven by the Gen-Y crowd who are all about "rediscovering" old architecture and embracing an urban hipster vibe.
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Old 01-19-2015, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville
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I work in Cranberry and live in the city. Of course, I lived in Cranberry for 28 years, so that ship has sailed. At the moment, I don't have any interest in being so far away from everything I like to do after work.

Not sure what the point about Westinghouse was above.
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Old 01-19-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Manchester
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The same can be said of Westinghouse.

I never said the economy is good in Pittsburgh. I am only saying that people are choosing the burbs over the inner city at this time. Which they are.
Yes, Westinghouse moved from one suburb to another. Doesn’t go very far in helping your theory that the suburbs are growing at some obscene pace. They are simply reshuffling the deck.
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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I have always been a fan of Bellevue.

Now THAT is a hidden gem of a neighborhood. Beautiful architecture!
Dry town, though, and transit connections to the city are lacking.

It does have great housing stock, and the Lincoln Ave business district is quietly solid, so it could be ideal for, say, a family with young children, but the above factors make it less likely to attract the more "traditional" gentrifier demographic.


West View is another area that I've always wondered whether it could and should be a lot more popular if it had better transit access to Downtown.
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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But given how much current pressure there is on housing in the city, I wouldn't want the growth to be too fast. The housing market needs time to catch up.
This has been discussed ad nauseam on these boards, but there's plenty of affordable housing all over the city, just maybe not in Lawrenceville and Shadyside.
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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I didn't say Cleveland has nothing to offer. I said it doesn't offer as much.
IDK about that, from what Merge has to say, it sounds like it has just as much to offer as Pittsburgh, just saying.

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It's not so much that it's too far, as it is that other areas are closer.

How much closer can you get and live as affordably?

In every other way, I think Pittsburgh's ahead. Better architecture. Less urban blight. More stable middle-class neighborhoods in the city proper. Higher levels of employment downtown. Etc.
Now that's why it could be cheaper.

[quote=PghYinzer;38058007]My two cents (maybe three cents)...



The use of the word trendy to describe stores such as Aeropostale, Gap, and Hollister almost made me spit out my coffee. Are there cities in America that do not have those stores? I wouldn’t even consider any of that when looking at a city, since I just assume they are everywhere.

Yes there is. I can name a few right in the Pittsburgh Tri State area. There is Weirton, WV, Steubenville, OH, Youngstown, OH, Wheeling, WV, New Castle, Altoona, Johnstown, etch. etch.. Don't try to make the definition of the word city mean what you want it to mean either.If you look up those places on Wikipedia, it says they are all cities.

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They sure are, people like to do their shopping in these establishments, and when they are convenient to the people, they are a plus for the community they are located.
EXACTLY, thank you.

Last edited by Yac; 01-20-2015 at 05:09 AM.. Reason: 5 posts merged, in the name of all that's holy, learn to multiquote! Use the Edit function!
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Old 01-20-2015, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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^ This is what's most likely going to happen.

"Too many people are moving here into Cranberry Township, so I'm going to buy a half-acre lot in this new development even further out in Jackson Township and then whine in 20 years when Jackson Township becomes the next Cranberry Township." I firmly believe that at some point during my lifetime everything between the City of Butler and the Allegheny County line will be nothing but tacky urban sprawl. Those people who are tiring of Cranberry Township aren't going to move into Evans City Borough or Zelienople Borough. They'll want a comparable lifestyle of living on a sidewalkless cul-de-sac where they won't have to be on top of their neighbors.
Just another sidewalkless cul-de-sac in the Soulless City of Pittsburgh.



















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