Be aware the Kenny Chesney concert is Sat. July 2nd (Pittsburgh: living, title)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by norcider

If Wiz Khalifa fans acted like the Cheney fans the National Guard would be called out.

Not in da 'burgh. Everyone likes Wiz. A native 'burgher and even though it's about a car, many think his song "Black and Yellow" is about da 'burgh.

[Q-tip motha]

Originally Posted by gg

I know people personally that have a rebel flag on a hat or a license plate and it doesn't have anything to do with race at all, but whatever. It is easier to just label everything the same and not actually think.

No you don't. Just as you don't know any Germans or white Americans who embrace the swastika who aren't racists (unless of course they're practitioners of the eastern religions whose usage of it predates Nazism). You make a conscious choice of accepting the history of the symbol. A choice that says the history is compatible with your views.

Originally Posted by gg

It is easier to just label everything the same and not actually think.

Thinking would require that you actually know the history of the symbol you embrace, instead of posting wildly inaccurate revisionist history while citing Urban Dictionary.

[erieguy]

I'd wager most everyone at that concert flying the Rebel Flag has no idea its history. Only that it was on the General Lee in The Dukes of Hazzard and they're "fighting the system".

[Q-tip motha]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

Nice to see you posting again, Q-Tip Motha! Now if we could only track down Hopes...

I won't stick around for long, but the inaccuracy and historical illiteracy of his comment couldn't go on unchallenged.

Too many people posting on here that are derisively outspoken in their views of the city and not at all interested in discussing the things that are happening around it without pushing that agenda.

I mean here we have a thread with a significant number of people who are defending and excusing individuals who drink too much, leave garbage everywhere, fight, drive drunk, and commit the occasional hate crime. It speaks for itself.

[Q-tip motha]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I'd wager most everyone at that concert flying the Rebel Flag has no idea its history. Only that it was on the General Lee in The Dukes of Hazzard and they're "fighting the system".

You mean to tell me that the people attending the concert are comically ignorant and uneducated?

Walking stereotypes of mentally deficient country folk?

Ok, I'll buy that.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Q-tip motha

You mean to tell me that the people attending the concert are comically ignorant and uneducated?

Walking stereotypes of mentally deficient country folk?

Ok, I'll buy that.

Actually, I'd wager that most anyone who flies it, educated or not, doesn't know it's history.

I checked out the tailgating and walked the lots a bit and didn't hear one racist word from anyone.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Q-tip motha

I mean here we have a thread with a significant number of people who are defending and excusing individuals who drink too much, leave garbage everywhere, fight, drive drunk, and commit the occasional hate crime. It speaks for itself.

It's not defending any of the actions of a some trouble makers (among tens of thousands) who most assuredly are disgusting individuals but merely finding the hypocracy of posters that insist on an annual thread where they can spout off about the horrid actions of a demographic they dislike (while ignoring or downplaying much worse actions that happen much more frequently throughout the city), at an event that lasts 1 day, has exactly 0 effect on their lives, brings lots of cash into the city & is completely cleaned up within hours of the event happening.

Btw, someone shoulda told these guys they were in danger amongst a crowd of racists

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Q-tip motha

You mean to tell me that the people attending the concert are comically ignorant and uneducated?

Walking stereotypes of mentally deficient country folk?

Ok, I'll buy that.

I mean you didn't know what flag you were referring to yourself...

[mountainlove]

For people who say "It's not about race" - that is because you are probably (like me) white.

Living in the USA as a white male, I get the benefit of the doubt in most situations in life. And I am just a Pollock from Millvale. This is not about class. If I want to try and live in a way that attempts to ignore race, I can build that bubble and that wall up. But again, that is a choice that can be made as a white person. People who are minorities do not have that option to pay attention to race or not when living in a white dominant society.

[gg]

Originally Posted by Q-tip motha

I won't stick around for long,

Thank goodness, you are so blinded by your racism. It is a shame what the media has done to some people. All they can see is their own agenda. And you are wrong calling me a lier, but you can get away with it due to the double standard that you are gleefully living in for now.

On a brighter note there is a cool little red, white and blue thingy in my top right corner.