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Old 05-12-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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This has its own thread, but maybe I should have just blended it into this one like you did. No one replied or had interest in it on its own. I thought it was a pretty cool segment other than the usual people complaining that housing prices are going up. Goodness, there are always people that hate any change for the better it seems.
You are naive if you think there is any change that is good for everyone. Try using a little empathy for a change and you might be able to develop a broader perspective.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh/Anchorage
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Here's a good article about Amazon's existing non-Seattle offices, with a focus on the Pittsburgh office:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...-accelerating/
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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Here's a good article about Amazon's existing non-Seattle offices, with a focus on the Pittsburgh office:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...-accelerating/
great article
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Pay attention to what's happening in Seattle. I think the political climate there will change the way cities are evaluated for their 2nd headquarters.

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Amazon 'Questions' Its Growth In Seattle After City Passes Watered-Down Tax to Help Homeless
Amazon Fumes After Seattle Passes Tax to Help Homeless | Fortune
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Pay attention to what's happening in Seattle. I think the political climate there will change the way cities are evaluated for their 2nd headquarters.



Amazon Fumes After Seattle Passes Tax to Help Homeless | Fortune
Honestly, I think Amazon's spat with Seattle increases our chances, rather than decreasing them.

Amazon is a major player in Seattle. However, Seattle has grown to a point where the political leadership doesn't feel beholden to Amazon any longer and is showing political independence. Amazon doesn't like this - it wants Seattle to be an Amazon company town. And that's clearly what they're angling for in HQ2 as well.

Why is this good for us? Because if Amazon relocated to a major U.S. city like Boston, DC, Philly, Chicago, etc Amazon would be an important employer, but the local economy would not be relent upon Amazon. In contrast, if Amazon comes here, within only a few years the city would be completely reliant upon jobs either directly created by Amazon or created secondarily due to Amazon-derived demand. Hence, Amazon would always get its way.
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Old 05-15-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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Honestly, I think Amazon's spat with Seattle increases our chances, rather than decreasing them.

Amazon is a major player in Seattle. However, Seattle has grown to a point where the political leadership doesn't feel beholden to Amazon any longer and is showing political independence. Amazon doesn't like this - it wants Seattle to be an Amazon company town. And that's clearly what they're angling for in HQ2 as well.

Why is this good for us? Because if Amazon relocated to a major U.S. city like Boston, DC, Philly, Chicago, etc Amazon would be an important employer, but the local economy would not be relent upon Amazon. In contrast, if Amazon comes here, within only a few years the city would be completely reliant upon jobs either directly created by Amazon or created secondarily due to Amazon-derived demand. Hence, Amazon would always get its way.
Another reason to utterly oppose Amazon coming here.
I agree with your analysis by the way - this city would become Bezosburgh.
And Peduto, and Fitzgerald, and the wealthy East Enders and Fox Chapel residents can say how wonderful it is - while the working class is utterly destroyed and any semblance of political independence (already sorely lacking in this one-party town) or checks-and-balances goes right down the crapper - and dumped into one of our polluted rivers.
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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It'll be interesting to see which cities just tell Amazon to take a hike during the future, more detailed negotiations, which are surely going to occur. The big Eastern cities are unlikely going to accept any demands which places them in a servile situation to Amazon - IMO, they'll just walk away. Just about the worse approach will be for Amazon to negotiate with these cities on the basis of, "X city is giving us this, can you beat that?" As far as Pittsburgh's chances, if in fact the above does occur and the major competitors drop out, Pittsburgh may actually have a shot at HQ2, but at what price?
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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City and County officials need to have some good answers to questions about dealing with the opiod problem (which is a major contributor to Seattle's homeless problem), and how housing will be funded for the hapless low income urban population.

Seattle's approach to the opiod problem, essentially enabling addicts to continue their addiction, shouldn't be one of Pittsburgh's solutions, or Amazon will walk.
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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City and County officials need to have some good answers to questions about dealing with the opiod problem (which is a major contributor to Seattle's homeless problem), and how housing will be funded for the hapless low income urban population.

Seattle's approach to the opiod problem, essentially enabling addicts to continue their addiction, shouldn't be one of Pittsburgh's solutions, or Amazon will walk.
LOL You’ll really just hop on Al Gore’s internet and type anything that pops into your head.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:44 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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You are naive if you think there is any change that is good for everyone. Try using a little empathy for a change and you might be able to develop a broader perspective.
I just believe in capitalism and not having around thinking that you are owed anything. If you want to live in the high rent district, you gotta work hard to do it. It is nice to see East Liberty finally getting back closer to what it ones was. It will never be as grand as it was back in the day, but it is getting a little better finally.

Pittsburgh sure could use the shot in the arm Amazon would give. More busses running, nicer parks better food and the list goes on and on. Hopefully less crime in the city. Getting tired of all the shootings downtown all the time.
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