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Old 11-01-2022, 11:36 AM
 
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Lies.
Why is it a lie?
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Old 11-01-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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Why is it a lie?
He has provided no support for the idea that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is based on Joe Biden's "failure to keep the peace with foreign leaders," despite having said that over and over and over again. I really don't find any credible source that backs up this opinion, and to the contrary, most sources praise Biden's efforts in rallying NATO support to oppose Putin. He has further failed to articulate how this would have played out differently under President Trump -- with most credible sources believing that Trump would have failed to provide support and/or undermined NATO resistance, such that Ukraine would have quickly lost much and/or all of its territory, and we would have an aggressive and emboldened Russia on NATO's doorstep (oh, I guess, under "because Trump" this doesn't matter either, because he was likely going to disband NATO in a second term).
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:04 PM
 
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I think voters are more concerned with sky high inflation, gas prices, utility prices, loss of freedoms, lockdowns, illegal immigrants and borders issues, homeless/druggie tent camps, public peeing and pooping than to worry about Ukraine. Just my guess.
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:07 PM
 
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He has provided no support for the idea that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is based on Joe Biden's "failure to keep the peace with foreign leaders," despite having said that over and over and over again. I really don't find any credible source that backs up this opinion, and to the contrary, most sources praise Biden's efforts in rallying NATO support to oppose Putin. He has further failed to articulate how this would have played out differently under President Trump -- with most credible sources believing that Trump would have failed to provide support and/or undermined NATO resistance, such that Ukraine would have quickly lost much and/or all of its territory, and we would have an aggressive and emboldened Russia on NATO's doorstep (oh, I guess, under "because Trump" this doesn't matter either, because he was likely going to disband NATO in a second term).

Here is the thing, we don't need a credible source to see trumps track record compared to bidens war mongering ways. Under trump we had peace agreements in the middle east, reduction of tensions in north Korea, successfully fighting isis, end of American involvement in syria, successfully drawing down of troops in Afghanistan and securing our border all while putting America first. There is your credible resource.
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Here is the thing, we don't need a credible source to see trumps track record compared to bidens war mongering ways. Under trump we had peace agreements in the middle east, reduction of tensions in north Korea, successfully fighting isis, end of American involvement in syria, successfully drawing down of troops in Afghanistan and securing our border all while putting America first. There is your credible resource.
Bingo…extremely credible
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I think voters are more concerned with sky high inflation, gas prices, utility prices, loss of freedoms, lockdowns, illegal immigrants and borders issues, homeless/druggie tent camps, public peeing and pooping than to worry about Ukraine. Just my guess.
Bingo…funny how the folks crying aren’t sending the money they have to help or going there to help fight.
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:21 PM
 
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Bingo…funny how the folks crying aren’t sending the money they have to help or going there to help fight.
Ukraine is about 50th on my priority list, i know some warmongers who won't be happy until ww3 starts but that isn't me. Ukraine is a European problem that should be solved by Europe. We have a border invasion that needs to be solved before we protect anothers.
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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Ukraine is about 50th on my priority list, i know some warmongers who won't be happy until ww3 starts but that isn't me. Ukraine is a European problem that should be solved by Europe. We have a border invasion that needs to be solved before we protect anothers.
Well, if you won't listen to me, I hope you at least listen to the remaining foreign policy experts/realists in the Republican party -- like Mitch McConnell, as well as likely Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Idaho Senator James E Risch, and also Texas House Republican Michael McCaul. It will be interesting if the Republican House listens to these serious professionals, or whether they cave to the crisis actor reps, like MTG.

Per Risch, "Ukraine must win this fight."

https://idahocapitalsun.com/briefs/u...nskyy-in-kyiv/
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Ukraine is about 50th on my priority list, i know some warmongers who won't be happy until ww3 starts but that isn't me. Ukraine is a European problem that should be solved by Europe. We have a border invasion that needs to be solved before we protect anothers.
Bingo
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Well, if you won't listen to me, I hope you at least listen to the remaining foreign policy experts/realists in the Republican party -- like Mitch McConnell, as well as likely Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Idaho Senator James E Risch, and also Texas House Republican Michael McCaul. It will be interesting if the Republican House listens to these serious professionals, or whether they cave to the crisis actor reps, like MTG.

Per Risch, "Ukraine must win this fight."

https://idahocapitalsun.com/briefs/u...nskyy-in-kyiv/
You have proven to be a warmonger with your constant Ukraine comments. Your credibility has deminished in my eyes. Hopefully your fellow warmongers will have a shift in attitude after the midterms. I don't believe any of the Republicans you had mentioned because they have been swimming in the swamp to long. They are probably getting a cut just like the big guy. "Why do we need to pass a 40 billion dollar bill to send 8 billion to Ukraine" lindsay Graham
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