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KevK..he wasn't fired for "no reason". He was fired for a specific reason which was a breach of the employment terms he agreed to and signed when he got hired.
KevK..he wasn't fired for "no reason". He was fired for a specific reason which was a breach of the employment terms he agreed to and signed when he got hired.
Who broke the rules here ?
Alcohol is perfectly legal but you can be fired for showing up to work drunk. You can probably even be fired for smoking in the workplace even though tobacco is legal and is what made Al Gore's family so rich.
I mean the right to your job. Right now you do not have a right to your job. You may be fired at any time for no reason at all. That is the law. It is just my view that an employee should have some rights to his or her job and those rights would be stronger the longer you work there. If they fire you, they should have to give a valid reason for doing so and if they cannot or don't have one, severance compensation should be ordered.
And that's the way it should stay. Employers aren't in the business of just firing people for no reason. It doesn't happen because it doesn't accrue revenue, and thus doesn't make any sense. Employers are in the business of making money. If you're a good employee, hard working, honest, and contribute to the overall success of the business, you'll keep your job. If you're not a good employee, you're lazy, and cost the company money, you'll be fired. That is what's in the best interest of the company and that is what the employer will do.
And that's the way it should stay. Employers aren't in the business of just firing people for no reason. It doesn't happen because it doesn't accrue revenue, and thus doesn't make any sense. Employers are in the business of making money. If you're a good employee, hard working, honest, and contribute to the overall success of the business, you'll keep your job. If you're not a good employee, you're lazy, and cost the company money, you'll be fired. That is what's in the best interest of the company and that is what the employer will do.
Oh good. Another congregant in the Church of Business Can Do No Wrong.
Oh good. Another congregant in the Church of Business Can Do No Wrong.
Do you know any perfectly capable hard working person who's ever been fired for no reason whatsoever? Didn't think so. Wouldn't make sense to fire a perfectly good employee, only to spend time and money finding a new employee that could possibly turn out to be a bad employee.
It doesn't make business sense and that's why it doesn't happen.
Do you know any perfectly capable hard working person who's ever been fired for no reason whatsoever? Didn't think so. Wouldn't make sense to fire a perfectly good employee, only to spend time and money finding a new employee that could possibly turn out to be a bad employee.
It doesn't make business sense and that's why it doesn't happen.
No reason whatsoever? No.
No good reason? No reason that has anything to do with the employer's legitimate business interests? Yes, plenty of times. Including every employee who has ever been fired for off-duty, off-premises drug use.
No good reason? No reason that has anything to do with the employer's legitimate business interests? Yes, plenty of times. Including every employee who has ever been fired for off-duty, off-premises drug use.
If a business preemptively outlines regulations concerning active drug use during employment, and states they will not employ an individual who is actively using drugs, one will be fired for such. Haven't we gone over this?
If you want to smoke pot, you can't work at Wal-Mart. If you're working at Wal-Mart, you know this before you gain employment with them. How is that Wal-Mart's problem? And how is this a bad reason for termination? You are made well aware before being made an employee that active drug use is grounds for termination. Don't smoke pot, or work somewhere else.
The real problem is self entitlement. What makes you so entitled to employment? Why should a business be required to employ you? They shouldn't, because this is The United Sates. You're entitled to pursuit of happiness. Which means you have to work to make it happen.
No good reason? No reason that has anything to do with the employer's legitimate business interests? Yes, plenty of times. Including every employee who has ever been fired for off-duty, off-premises drug use.
I had a friend who was an alcoholic. It got so bad, that everyday she would go home at lunch and make herself a few vodka martinis. Her afternoons were conducted in an alcohol haze. Since the bulk of her job was dealing with customers, her drinking affected her job performance, and her employer had to let her go. But hey, she never drank on the job, she was always off-duty and off-premises. So, according to you, her employer didn't have a good reason.
And how would you suggest an employer avoid hiring an employee who smokes pot at work aside from a standard drug test?
Sure, it sounds good to say that hey, you can smoke pot at home, just leave it there. But is there any full-proof way of knowing the employee will do that? No.
In the interest of safety, when a person tests positive for any drugs, a responsible employer should always assume that said employee will also be doing the drug on the job.
Safety and responsibility. Unless you know something the rest of us don't, standard drug testing is the best way to go about it.
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