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Old 07-05-2010, 01:55 PM
 
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If you are searching tit for tat, you could educate yourself in the plethora of barbaric methods of muslims in the concomitant time period. The Inquisition began due to their constant pillaging, rape and torture of Christian villages of the time. A sordid tidbit for sure.
I am against all religions because horrific punishments for perceived moral crimes are all rooted in religion of any kind. Christianity is no exception.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/murderers.htm
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Old 07-05-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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I can see you refuse to discuss the subject at hand in context and repeatedly attempt to take others off on unrelated tangents. Perhaps a course on understanding the Bible as a work of literature would help you understand the writings in a historical perspective. Most colleges offer this as an entry level religion course. I'll not entertain you further in your subject departures.
Tell me, how does study of the Bible in a historical perspective shed understanding on stoning a bride to death in front of her parents because she was thought not to be a virgin?
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Old 07-05-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Tell me, how does study of the Bible in a historical perspective shed understanding on stoning a bride to death in front of her parents because she was thought not to be a virgin?
Wow, I must have missed that story in the MSM. Care to give a link as to when that happened?
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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Wow, I must have missed that story in the MSM. Care to give a link as to when that happened?
During Bible times, the book which is the foundation for Christians. The only thing that has tempered these horrific theocratic punishments has been our democratic government-not Christianity.
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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During Bible times, the book which is the foundation for Christians. The only thing that has tempered these horrific theocratic punishments has been our democratic government-not Christianity.
When were these "Bible times" and when did they end, or did they?

So you're saying that there are Christians out there right now in America debating on whether to break the law and kill their non-virgin daughter or to go against their religion by not killing them? Where are these people? I don't think I've ever met one. This is indeed perplexing.
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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The fake sympathy here makes me ill, if the woman was killed by an Israeli or American bomb no one would give a crap.
Do you compare killing by a bomb to killing by stoning?
Or do you protect the ideology of Killing by stoning?

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Old 07-05-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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I am against all religions because horrific punishments for perceived moral crimes are all rooted in religion of any kind. Christianity is no exception.

This kind of extreme but generalized blanket statement seems a transparency into one's lack of basic self awareness, lack of appreciation for history, archaeology, ancient cultures and literature. Certainly signals an immature, if not dismal life view. No matter, as you definitely are not alone; legions of bland and vapid souls live out their lives in similar lockstep. I don't embrace any particular religion, but do appreciate the best that each has to offer. The expectation for man in general to somehow remain innocent from commission of violent crime and immorality would reveal an adolescent mindset at best. That man has, down through time, committed horrible acts for some "cause" is integral to human nature, not specific to a religion.

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Old 07-05-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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I am against all religions because horrific punishments for perceived moral crimes are all rooted in religion of any kind. Christianity is no exception.

Missionaries or Murderers? - The Christianising of Europe – Torture
Many Christians will claim that we "take things out of context"
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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When were these "Bible times" and when did they end, or did they?

So you're saying that there are Christians out there right now in America debating on whether to break the law and kill their non-virgin daughter or to go against their religion by not killing them? Where are these people? I don't think I've ever met one. This is indeed perplexing.
It would, if our country was a theocracy. Remember the witch burnings here in America?
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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This kind of extreme but generalized blanket statement seems a transparency into one's lack of basic self awareness, lack of appreciation for history, archaeology, ancient cultures and literature. Certainly signals an immature, if not dismal life view. No matter, as you definitely are not alone; legions of bland and vapid souls live out their lives in similar lockstep. I don't embrace any particular religion, but do appreciate the best that each has to offer. The expectation for man in general to somehow remain innocent from commission of violent crime and immorality would reveal an adolescent mindset at best. That man has, down through time, committed horrible acts for some "cause" is integral to human nature, not specific to a religion.
You are claiming that religion does not have a history of violence? You are claiming that harsh physical punishments for "moral" crimes is not rooted in some religion?
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