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Ridiculous that you continue with this falsehood in the form of veiled references now to Communism. It's funny how all of these parrots repeating talk radio charges of Communism and socialism frequently can't define either.
He was not the most liberal senator. Not at all. Ever heard of Ted Kennedy? How about Bernie Sanders, who actually IS a socialist?
More misinformation that has metastasized to undermine the presidency. You prove my point.
Don't confuse the nutty comments by some rightwinger that would hate anyone with a D after their name with absolution that the president is being "undermined".
We've long known that the far right and left represent over 1/2 the voters and they will never ever do anything but lockstep criticize or approve of the actions of their party.
So, that leaves people like me in the middle.
Here goes my attempt to explain:
1) Healthcare. Blaming corporations and republicans is just super, the democrats however had their own internal revolt and as much as you want to wave your hands and blame its pace and ultimate watering down on others...that one falls firmly in the lap of the dems.
2) The war(s). Probably my biggest disappointment, most democrats went from anti-war to shrug-ville the minute Obama won the election. No marches, ostracize people like Sheehan, very very sad.
3) Failure of party loyalist to recognize there is very very little difference between the actions of the two parties. Did Bush stop abortion? Did the dems "take those record profits"? You know the (BP) liability cap was passed after exxon-valdez with the support of BOTH parties? You know that BP contributed to BOTH parties extensively? Big corporate and bank bailouts...surely only the republicans protect big business....lmao.
Basically, you are trying to absolve Obama and the dems from responsibility and claiming that criticism of them is due to misinformation and right-wingers. You might want to address some of the specific concerns of the moderates and open your own eyes as to just how your perception of your party and reality differ.
Are the failures of the Obama administration to achieve their full agenda due to the incompetence and inexperience of the administration or the consistent undermining of their policies and efforts by the opposing party? Is it some combination of both? Would things be different right now if not for the corporate interest sponsored health care mobs at town halls last summer? Has Obama been his own worst enemy in terms of providing leadership to get his agenda passed?
The anti-Obama crowd hated him even before he stepped into the Oval Office.
I think that even those who didn't vote for George W (in the beginning) gave him the respect that the office of POTUS demands...this was not the case with President Obama from day one.
From the date of his election, President Obama had a slew of strong oppostion from the likes of the Tea Partiers and the bitter Republicans. Many have used the failures that occured under George W and simply passed the blame along to hang around President Obama's neck.
The anti-Obama crowd hated him even before he stepped into the Oval Office.
I think that even those who didn't vote for George W (in the beginning) gave him the respect that the office of POTUS demands...this was not the case with President Obama from day one.
From the date of his election, President Obama had a slew of strong oppostion from the likes of the Tea Partiers and the bitter Republicans. Many have used the failures that occured under George W and simply passed the blame along to hang around President Obama's neck.
Cali, I disagree. On the surface, it appears to some that Obama is the recipient of unfair criticism, but I believe he just happens to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Make no mistake, I believe Obama's misreading of the mandate is also a source of discontent, but it doesn't explain everything. Consider this:
After the fiasco of the Jimmy Carter years, Ronald Reagan was able to win the Cold War, an undeniable victory for America. The take down of the Soviet Empire re-energized Americans' belief in the institution of freedom from oppression after having received a thorough trouncing in Viet Nam. This victory, coupled with Reagan's folksy style, convinced us American's that we were the worlds only true shining light. Even in a bad economy, which always recovers, the people were more comfortable than they had been in a long time since the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction was all but gone. Subsequently, apathy set in, and the technological 90's boom ramped up, and we were all fat, dumb, and happy. The tide turned after 9/11 and American's were ready to fight the long and costly fight to avenge those killed by terrorists. Only now, after years of war and a recession, did it ever occur to the people that the snowball of events got so large that the people were awakened from their slumber and forced into outrage and resistance.
I think its a bit short-sighted to attribute the resistance to a particular President, race, etc. I think the discontent is a product of the big picture of events that have occurred over the past 40 years. Obama happens to be President at a time when American's have generally awoken from decades of apathy. His policies have exascerbated the situation.
Were we ever really winning the war in Iraq? I mean, really?
yes. really. clearly the left feels differently. but you cannot suggest that Obama is being undermined now without also admitting the left undermined the previous president...
the fact is, every president is taken to task by the opposition.
The anti-Obama crowd hated him even before he stepped into the Oval Office.
I think that even those who didn't vote for George W (in the beginning) gave him the respect that the office of POTUS demands...this was not the case with President Obama from day one.
From the date of his election, President Obama had a slew of strong oppostion from the likes of the Tea Partiers and the bitter Republicans. Many have used the failures that occured under George W and simply passed the blame along to hang around President Obama's neck.
Of course they did. 30% will hate the president automatically because of the R or D at the back of their name this is a given with every president.
Saying Obama didn't get afforded the same treatment as Bush is just partisan point of view. Look at his approval ratings.
Moderates (like me who actually voted for Obama) that have soured on Obama can't just be written off with your trite comments.
I find your describing of Obama's problems as just being failures handed off by Bush...lol. On MANY topics I fail to see ANY difference between the two.
Obama is still a better pres. than Bush but I am appalled to see so many dems giving him a free pass on things like corporate ties, bailouts, guantanamo, iraq, afghanistan, BP etc and then cry that those of us with issues are unfair or undermining.
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