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No, your 84 yrr. old mother does not get her prescription for "free". They have been paid for by someone else via taxes. There aint no such thing as a free lunch. Some of us in the USA prefer to keep the individual liberties we left England to practice more than 200 yrs. ago. The escape from an overbearing and overtaxing government was one of those reasons. Read the Declaration of Independence and you'll see the grievances of the colonists then against King George are not so different than those of Conservatives against a Progessive led US federal government now.
Sounds just like the USA where my taxes pay for Medicare, Medicaid, VA, etc.
Are you in favor of getting rid of them?
You do understand why the UK introduced the NHS don't you?
What you are really stating is: eliminate the private sector and turn it over to the government. And that physicians, nurses and others working in the medical field do not deserve to reap the rewards of their education and of their hard work. In otherwords, they should not profit from their labor.
The way to keep the medical industry from profiting from YOU is to stay healthy. Why don't YOU do that instead of imposing Socialism on everyone else?
If you think the money private insurance companies are making, is being passed onto the physicians, nurses, etc...your sadly mistaken. And yes, you deserve to reap the rewards of your education and hardwork and labor I know the issues of physicians all too well And, I am healthy We can start with repealing the equation used to determine physician/provider fees for Medicare/Medicaid/and Tricare.
It's not socialism to have Medicare for everyone - it's
the right thing to do. I can think of nothing more societal than medicine.
What you are really stating is: eliminate the private sector and turn it over to the government. And that physicians, nurses and others working in the medical field do not deserve to reap the rewards of their education and of their hard work. In otherwords, they should not profit from their labor.
The way to keep the medical industry from profiting from YOU is to stay healthy. Why don't YOU do that instead of imposing Socialism on everyone else?
Private sector can coexist as it does in every developed nation (and they all have some form of UHC). And, we already have a switch that turns it all over to the government... Medicare.
BTW, there is a good support from the nurses and physicians for single payer option. In fact, I haven't met a doctor who believes private sector is the answer and is what we need to keep America on track. Tell me again, who is paying for profitability of insurance companies, their remunerations, again? And does profitability of these insurance companies help the providers of the service (such as doctors and nurses)? How so?
No, your 84 yr. old mother does not get her prescription for "free". They have been paid for by someone else via taxes. There aint no such thing as a free lunch. Some of us in the USA prefer to keep the individual liberties we left England to practice more than 200 yrs. ago. The escape from an overbearing and overtaxing government was one of those reasons. Read the Declaration of Independence and you'll see the grievances of the colonists then against King George back then are not so different than those of Conservatives against a Progessive led US federal government now.
You do know your taxes are used to pay for Tricare - spouses, retirees, and families of those that
serve in our armed forces. You do know that most those getting Medicare have paid taxes their entire working life too. The problem with the Medicare system is although it was for the "general welfare" it was for a select group. It
should be for ALL our citizens.
Individual liberties is one thing, health care
at an unaffordable price is quite another.
I hope you have the same zealous opposition to our military spending, as you seem to have for grandma
I have lived in 3 countries, UK, Switzerland and the USA. They all have different health systems and all of them work okay. All three have broadly comparable life expectancy and infant mortallty rates (although the US is behind both the UK and Switzerland but not by a lot).
So the real issue is how you pay for health and how much you pay. Here, the US does not do well at all. Almost three times the per capita cost compared to the UK and almost twice the per capita cost compared to Switzerland. So we are clearly doing something wrong when it comes to getting value for the dollars we spend on health care.
I have lived in 3 countries, UK, Switzerland and the USA. They all have different health systems and all of them work okay. All three have broadly comparable life expectancy and infant mortallty rates (although the US is behind both the UK and Switzerland but not by a lot).
So the real issue is how you pay for health and how much you pay. Here, the US does not do well at all. Almost three times the per capita cost compared to the UK and almost twice the per capita cost compared to Switzerland. So we are clearly doing something wrong when it comes to getting value for the dollars we spend on health care.
The last thing you want to do is to give a dose of reality check to those most vocal claimants of fiscal conservatism.
You do know your taxes are used to pay for Tricare - spouses, retirees, and families of those that
serve in our armed forces. You do know that most those getting Medicare have paid taxes their entire working life too. The problem with the Medicare system is although it was for the "general welfare" it was for a select group. It
should be for ALL our citizens.
Individual liberties is one thing, health care
at an unaffordable price is quite another.
I hope you have the same zealous opposition to our military spending, as you seem to have for grandma
I paid for my own grandmother's healthcare when it exceeded her Social Security and Medicare coverage. I expect other families to take care of their own and pay those expenses for elderly relatives who themselves may not have those means. A little thing called personal responsibility.
Yes, I understand I'm already paying for other people's health care now. However, if these folks wish, when they are unsatisfied with those provisions of their health plan they could seek treatment out of pocket elsewhere. Under Obamacare that choice and freedom has been removed. I regularly donate to medical funding for our nation's military veterans beyond what I am taxed because I appreciate that they have defended my priviledge to live in peace here in the USA and placed themselves in harms way so that I did not have to.
I am not willing to surrender my liberty of choice and medical treatment at any price to turn it over to the federal government to decide what they think is best for me. Of course, YMMV.
I paid for my own grandmother's healthcare when it exceeded her Social Security and Medicare coverage. I expect other families to take care of their own and pay those expenses for elderly relatives who themselves may not have those means. A little thing called personal responsibility.
Hey, I have you beat - my grandfather never even took Social Security and paid for my grandmother to be in a nursing facility with his own money. Unfortunately, we are not the norm. With the recent stock market/housing crash, I suspect there are more have nots than not - getting up in years - but still have 15-20 years before Medicare.
Personal responsibility is a wonderful thing, but it has to be put into perspective with medicine today, which is extremely expensive. It isn't 1900 or even early 20th century medicine anymore.
Hey, I have you beat - my grandfather never even took Social Security and paid for my grandmother to be in a nursing facility with his own money. Unfortunately, we are not the norm. With the recent stock market/housing crash, I suspect there are more have nots than not - getting up in years - but still have 15-20 years before Medicare.
Personal responsibility is a wonderful thing, but it has to be put into perspective with medicine today, which is extremely expensive. It isn't 1900 or even early 20th century medicine anymore.
Yes, let us look at the exponential rise in expense imposed by the federal government for bringing new drugs and new medical technologies into use instead of conveniently only pointing the finger at insurance companies.
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I know the issues of physicians all too well
And, I am healthy
We can start with repealing the equation used to determine physician/provider fees for Medicare/Medicaid/and Tricare.
