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Old 09-05-2010, 07:55 PM
 
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Fetuses are NOT babies. They cannot survive outside of the womb until very late in a pregnancy. Late term abortions are the least likely abortions to occur. When they do occur there are usually medical reasons. If you don't like the law then get it changed. But a law used to impose your morality on another individual won’t work. Roe v. Wade has already established that.

How it is racist to say that many Conservatives don't have an interest in the civil rights of Black Americans? It's Conservatives that resisted the ending of slavery. It's Conservatives that enacted Jim Crow laws and segregation. It's Conservatives that resisted the Civil Rights movement. It's Conservatives that created the Southern Strategy to appeal the Southern Conservatives and their viewpoints on race to make the South a Republican stronghold in national elections for the past 42 years. It's extreme Conservative organizations like the Aryan Nation, The Conservative Council, The Klu Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party that are amongst the most racist in the country. As a group Conservatives are less likely to speak out for equal rights for all Americans of any group in the country.
Who said? Pre born babies have 100% human DNA and both parents are human. Most scientists now agree that pre-born babies are indeed human, you're line of thinking is pretty out dated.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:16 PM
 
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What is now known as the Jim Crow Laws, were passed by Grant. Far from a Conservative, but he was a Republican. Kind like Hoover and FDR, don't let that R fool you. They were as Progressive as they come.
The Grant Administration provided federal troops in the South that help decrease the organized violence of the Klu Klux Klan and allowed Black Americans to exercise their voting rights. The overwhelming majority of Jim Crow laws were written and enacted AFTER Grant left office in 1877. In fact the Republicans cut a back room deal with the Democrats during the contested election of 1876. In return for the Democrats delivering the electoral votes that were disputed in several Southern states they got the Republicans to remove federal troops from the South. The Republican Rutherford B. Hayes became President. This is known as the Compromise of 1877. Federal troops left the South and THAT'S when the Jim Crow laws started.

Hoover was so progressive he made deal with prominent Black Republicans to keep silent about abuses to Black Americans during the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927. He offered Black American leaders influence in his administration in exchange for their silence about the abuses during his presidential campaign in 1928. After he got elected he threw Black Americans out of positions in the Republican Party and gave them to White Southerners. It led to a backlash by Black Americans that sent them voting for FDR in 1932. It was also the beginning of Black Americans supporting Democratic candidates.

Basically the early Republican Party at time supported civil rights for Black Americans. But when it was politically expedient to do so they threw them under the bus.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Fetuses are NOT babies. They cannot survive outside of the womb until very late in a pregnancy. Late term abortions are the least likely abortions to occur. When they do occur there are usually medical reasons. If you don't like the law then get it changed. But a law used to impose your morality on another individual won’t work. Roe v. Wade has already established that.

When is the until very late in a pregnancy point? At what time before the due-date, does that point of no return fall???
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Midvale, UT
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Fantastic! The facts hurt when they're thrown in your face. Thanks for posting that clip!
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Midvale, UT
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My oh my. What's a lib to do if more and more of the blacks wake up.
Don't fret buck-o. They still have the Latinos. Cheer up.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Midvale, UT
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Politicians can show they care for people in ways other than by handouts and welfare. "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life." People need to get off their butt, get off the tit and improve their situation because no one is going to do it for them. No one cares about you more than you do. If we wean people off chronic, multi-generational lifelong welfare, maybe they'd realize the potential they ACTUALLY POSSESS.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Midvale, UT
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I guess you just don't get out much.

Most Black Americans are not poor. Most Black Americans are not on public assistance of any kind. Black people don't agree on everything. In fact Black Americans have a far wider variety of opinions on issues than most White Americans know. The woman in the Youtube clip is a perfect example of this. The reasons most White Americans don't know this is that very few White Americans take the time to get to know a Black American or even care about Black History or Black Culture. Your post just proves this point.

For many Black Americans the issue isn't moving beyond slavery. It's that most Black Americans at one time or another in one form or another will still face some element of discrimination or exclusion right now in 2010. But you wouldn't understand that. The majority of Black Americans will shoulder these elements of discrimination and exclusion and go right on about their lives doing the best they can for themselves and their families.

The majority of Black Americans don't give a damn about "Entitlements" they would just like to live in place where their rights are respected and they are treated fairly But you wouldn't know and you don't care. It's obvious in your posts.
Your comment about Blacks anticipating some element of discrimination in the future is idiotic. EVERYONE regardless of race, religion or creed can anticipate some form of discrimination. Discrimination is not the province of the Black community alone. And because some member of the Black community may experience individual discrimination doesn't make it any more heinous than anyone else being discriminated against. There has just been more coverage of it. If someone looks down the road and expects racism and discrimination, then consciously or subconsciously that person will find a way to put themself in a position to cause that belief to become a reality.

The reason I could care less about Black History and Culture is because I personally am tired of being characterized as racist and insensitive when I have a dissenting opinion regarding the matter. I've had the GD race card thrown at me so many times because I'm white that my concern is almost non-existant.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Blacks vote together over 90% of the time and 96% for Obama, sorry but that doesnt do much to help the were all sooo different response.
Once again, 96% of those who voted, voted for Obama. Lets break it down


There were nearly 17.4 million registered black voters in the US according to the census in 2008. 16.13 million of us voted in the 2008 elections. 96% of us voted for Obama, which equals to roughly 15.5 million. There were 26.5 million Black people of voting age and 24.9 million were eligible to register. In conclusion, 9.5 million black didn't vote at all, either because they weren't registered or decided not to participate.

Now whether or not most of the remaining 9.5 million would've have chose Obama is up to debate.

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Old 09-05-2010, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Midvale, UT
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Just think with no liberalism Conservative America would embrace Black Americans with open arms. Just imagine the Klu Klux Klan members stopping from burning crosses long enough to express their joy that Black Americans have finally joined them and introducing them to their sons and daughters. Can you just see how wonderful the future could be if we could all join as one together.
Can you imagine the potential this country has if it's people could put aside their differences. That's a reality I'd love to wake up to. This is a comment of yours I really agree with. Unless it was meant with sarcasm. I hope not though.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Midvale, UT
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Why do you have to have children to be successful? Are the millions of childfree-by-choice Americans not successful?
But the thing is that the spirit of success ends with them. You can't perpetuate a prosperous society if you don't replenish it.
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