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The denial and refusal for people to take responsibility for the havoc that humans wreak on the planet's ecosystems and its wildlife is where the problem lies. We most likely would not be debating on a thread such as this if humans acknowledged this fact. Until I began debating on CD, I never really knew how bad the problem was and just how many ignorant people inhabit this planet. The self importance and feelings if entitlement that man has is amazing. The fact is, we are parasites living off the resources of this planet that is hosting us, just as it is hosting every other life form. The Earth can get along just fine and in fact, better without us. If any of the religious people posting here argue that we are superior as deemed by the "creator", then tell me why you have such blatant disregard for his other creations?
Spoken like someone who acknowledges man is but temporarily at the top of the food chain. We may as well enjoy it while it lasts.
Well I'd just like to know what time period they're most interested in going back to. Maybe the Carboniferous period where:
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Atmospheric oxygen levels peaked around 35 percent, compared with 21 percent today.
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Deadly poisonous centipedes some six feet (two meters) in length crawled in the company of mammoth cockroaches and scorpions as much as three feet (one meter) long. Most impressive of all were dragonflies that grew to the size of seagulls. One exquisitely detailed fossil of a dragonfly that died 320 million years ago shows it had a wingspan of 2.5 feet (0.75 meters).
And then when you actually go through past time periods I can't see how you can come to the conclusion that this is not the best time period of all. These are the good times historically speaking of course...
The denial and refusal for people to take responsibility for the havoc that humans wreak on the planet's ecosystems and its wildlife is where the problem lies. We most likely would not be debating on a thread such as this if humans acknowledged this fact. Until I began debating on CD, I never really knew how bad the problem was and just how many ignorant people inhabit this planet. The self importance and feelings if entitlement that man has is amazing. The fact is, we are parasites living off the resources of this planet that is hosting us, just as it is hosting every other life form. The Earth can get along just fine and in fact, better without us. If any of the religious people posting here argue that we are superior as deemed by the "creator", then tell me why you have such blatant disregard for his other creations?
Talk of heaven! ye disgrace earth.
Thoreau
Looks who's preaching for responsibility and against self-importance and self-entitlement! That is rich! HAHAHAHAHA
What other species on the face of the earth is able to measure and attempt to minimize its impact? Perhaps you are as you claim a parasite; however, many of us are conservationists and do not have a blatant disregard for God's creations.
Looks who's preaching for responsibility and against self-importance and self-entitlement! That is rich! HAHAHAHAHA
What other species on the face of the earth is able to measure and attempt to minimize its impact? Perhaps you are as you claim a parasite; however, many of us are conservationists and do not have a blatant disregard for God's creations.
Go project into a mirror, please.
What are you talking about? You are on the defensive about what exactly? All your post proves is that you do not know the meaning of the word "parasite".
Where did I state that there were not humans that are "conservationists'?
I included a quote from Thoreau, a forefather of "The Naturalist Movement".
Attempt to minimize its impact, you say? Minimal is the amount of people willing to own up to human caused destruction. Good on you if you live upon the Earth gently, but don't you realize that you are in the minority? Why are you so defensive?
BTW...anyone that considers themselves a "conservationist" must also admit that they are up against the most powerful industry in the world which relentlessly attmepts to thwart any awakening concerning ecological responsibility.
Oh yeah, I'm ignoring your opening line as I have no idea what the hell you are referring to, nor probably do you.
Well i might like to see all man made torn down, and many of you living in the wilds with nothing, you can't make with yer owns hands, but somehow i don't see that idea working very well. But don't let me stop anyone.
If anyone does try, let me know so I can take a few pictures.
Chances are a lot more than 50% of you have not the slightest idea how to survive in the first place.
Well i might like to see all man made torn down, and many of you living in the wilds with nothing, you can't make with yer owns hands, but somehow i don't see that idea working very well. But don't let me stop anyone.
If anyone does try, let me know so I can take a few pictures.
Chances are a lot more than 50% of you have not the slightest idea how to survive in the first place.
In a period of more than a half-billion years, only three such extinction events appear to have been as devastating as the present one, which is being caused by humans.
"We're 100 percent responsible for it."
Why worry? They will evolve back into existence at some point.
Well i might like to see all man made torn down, and many of you living in the wilds with nothing, you can't make with yer owns hands, but somehow i don't see that idea working very well. But don't let me stop anyone.
If anyone does try, let me know so I can take a few pictures.
Chances are a lot more than 50% of you have not the slightest idea how to survive in the first place.
50%? More like 90%.
I don't understand why anyone would wish for the good old days of 200 years ago. Life was quite harsh compared to today.
I live rural, and have been around here long enough to recall roads no longer here at all. Nature takes back what man made and later discards.
I well know what happens to un-used buildings. I even have a vintage oil lamp that still works, I found in what used to be a stone cabin.
When I found the lamp all I could see was a lamp burner on the ground. It turned out be all except a mantell and chimney a Lincoln Drape Alladin lamp circa 1935.
I had to litterally dig it out of moss covered soil, and as i did I came to understand once a table had been under it, and what I took at first wrongly as stone ledge, inside a stone walled cabin.
It took many years for the forest to eat up that cabin and work on that table, leaving only brass and glass behind.
The 50% was just to be a little gentle.
The video I didn't see yet, since i am on 56k still, but I am not sure in the 'new world order' if a cabin made with steel tools is a fair thing to do or not. Would you suppose a cabin made that way is 100% natural after a non sence law to reduce man to naught passed?
Man certainly can live with out steel tools, as well as all plastics right?
I can, but i don't, not till everyone else must.
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