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Old 09-27-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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art is not just a pretty depiction of a field of flowers, at its core is supposed to be thought provoking and provocative to generate emotion
Except if the emotions are negative and from liberal darlings, then it's not art, it's hate speech, right?

So assasinating the pope in a picutre is "thought provoking"

Drawing a picture of mohammed is "provocative" and thus a consequence of your actions and if you get killed, it's your fault.
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Except if the emotions are negative and from liberal darlings, then it's not art, it's hate speech, right?

So assasinating the pope in a picutre is "thought provoking"

Drawing a picture of mohammed is "provocative" and thus a consequence of your actions and if you get killed, it's your fault.

See this is what I mean when I say you pigeonhole an entire group of people and try to form an argument that isn't there. Are you really a lawyer?
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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SO there are only consequences if liberal darlings get offended?

Would you talk about consequences if it were liberal darlings getting targetted?

Do you think abortion clinic bombings are consequences of abortion being legal?

So if I insult muslims, the consequences are that I die, and it is thus my fault.

If I insult antiabortion people, the consequences are I die, but it's their fault.

Why in one situation is it my fault, and the other it's the other person's fault?

Do you ever tire of making excuses for your darling groups?
ha ha ha ha...it's not a political issue.

Walk up to the biggest man you know and tell him his mom's a b*tch. I don't care what political persuasion he is of, there are going to be some consequences for you.
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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ha ha ha ha...it's not a political issue.

Walk up to the biggest man you know and tell him his mom's a b*tch. I don't care what political persuasion he is of, there are going to be some consequences for you.
Will telling a grown man his mom is a b*tch "put US troops in danger"?
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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Let us review the rules for starting a thread such as this:

First, state some implausible or simply idiotic proposition, such as ‘The World is Flat’.

Second, challenge a stereotypical group to challenge you on your implausible or simply idiotic proposition.

Third, make a sweeping generalization about said group or a perceived individual member of said group.

Finally, chuckle at your imagined superiority over the stereotypical group.

We must remember, however, that it is difficult, if not impossible, to argue with an implausible or simply idiotic proposition. A person who makes idiotic propositions simply cannot be reasoned with. A person could well write back “But it is scientifically proven that the world is not flat, but a sphere slightly flattened at the polesâ€. The original poster will, of course, accuse you of being a stereotypical group afraid of facing facts.
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Let us review the rules for starting a thread such as this:

First, state some implausible or simply idiotic proposition, such as ‘The World is Flat’.

Second, challenge a stereotypical group to challenge you on your implausible or simply idiotic proposition.

Third, make a sweeping generalization about said group or a perceived individual member of said group.

Finally, chuckle at your imagined superiority over the stereotypical group.

We must remember, however, that it is difficult, if not impossible, to argue with an implausible or simply idiotic proposition. A person who makes idiotic propositions simply cannot be reasoned with. A person could well write back “But it is scientifically proven that the world is not flat, but a sphere slightly flattened at the polesâ€. The original poster will, of course, accuse you of being a stereotypical group afraid of facing facts.
What's scary is the person who's guilty of this claims to be a lawyer
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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Except if the emotions are negative and from liberal darlings, then it's not art, it's hate speech, right?

So assasinating the pope in a picutre is "thought provoking"

Drawing a picture of mohammed is "provocative" and thus a consequence of your actions and if you get killed, it's your fault.

the persons that want to hurt, maim or kill an "artist" for their work is crazy. end of story. if you want to stereotype it isn't the liberal who gets offended when they see a penis on a sculpture and want a fig leaf on it.
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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So what was so wrong with a pastor in FL burning his own books?
Because the pastor's whole purpose in burning Korans was to insult Muslims.
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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the persons that want to hurt, maim or kill an "artist" for their work is crazy. end of story. if you want to stereotype it isn't the liberal who gets offended when they see a penis on a sculpture and want a fig leaf on it.
How many threats of violence and murders were committed in response to seeing a penis on a statue?

30+ people were murdered in Turkey a few years after the Satanic Verses was written because the Turkish translator of the book was in a hotel, and the "offended" people set the hotel on fire and killed dozens.

So show me examples of conservative outrage leading to threats of violence and actual violence.
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Because the pastor's whole purpose in burning Korans was to insult Muslims.
What is the sole purpose of Dung Virgin marys and urine crucifixes?

Do you see how jews are treated in the islamic world and their press? They don't seem the least bit shy about insulting jews, yet there's no jewish violence or threats of violence.
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