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Old 11-01-2010, 05:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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  • the domain ruled by an emperor or empress; the region over which imperial dominion is exercised
  • a group of countries under a single authority; "the British created a great empire"
  • a monarchy with an emperor as head of state
  • conglomerate: a group of diverse companies under common ownership and run as a single organization


Don't even think about trying to relabel the REPUBLIC that has been envied by all other nations.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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  • the domain ruled by an emperor or empress; the region over which imperial dominion is exercised
  • a group of countries under a single authority; "the British created a great empire"
  • a monarchy with an emperor as head of state
  • conglomerate: a group of diverse companies under common ownership and run as a single organization


Don't even think about trying to relabel the REPUBLIC that has been envied by all other nations.
1. Our President is referred to "The leader of the free world"

2. While many countries are our "allies" essentially, we are one giant country. Also, we control several territories around the world, just like Rome controlled territories.

3. Again, we have a head of state of great power. To much, the executive branch is nothing like the founders envisioned.

4. See "Haliburton"
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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1. Our President is referred to "The leader of the free world"

2. While many countries are our "allies" essentially, we are one giant country. Also, we control several territories around the world, just like Rome controlled territories.

3. Again, we have a head of state of great power. To much, the executive branch is nothing like the founders envisioned.

4. See "Haliburton"
I hate to break you bubble but, every country we have troops in are at the request of that country. As in Germany. Do you actually think Germany has no government of its own and the we tell Germany what to do and what they cannot do?

Do you mean the Haliburton the Clinton gave the no-bid contract to?

You need to change your meds.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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I hate to break you bubble but, every country we have troops in are at the request of that country.
I don't know if you're correct either way, but is cuba an exception?
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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No, it cannot fall. But it sure can kneel at times.
The first part of failure is thinking that you can't. Nobody thought Muhamed Ali was going to beat Sonny Liston or the Jets were going beat the Colts in Super Bowl III. American hubris is the reason China is beating our ***es in the game of global economics.

If the only reason you think you deserve to be on top because that's the way it's always been that's the first part of starting to fail. In terms of technical innovation, education and economic development this country has done nothing since the 1990's to keep the American economy growing.

When you stop working to be the best at some point you're not going to be the best. That's where the United States is now.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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No, it cannot fall. But it sure can kneel at times.
We aren't an empire in the sense of the British or the Roman, but we have our military all over the world and exert influence as if we were. So in a way an official empire can't fall. Or be brought to its knees.

Unofficially however...

And all empires, official or other, so fall. Every single one. It may take a long time or a short time. It may be military which ends it or simple fading of authority and power and decline. But history isn't static.

How it effect the ordinary person depends. Since its unlikely to be an army which ends it, the slow breakdown will be the way we feel it. There is already a feeling of a fundamental change. It will just keep getting stronger. In the end we'll shrink back to what is manageable without a huge structure to keep it together. That is how things work.

For the average person it will be a sense of change, but not so much that it makes them lose hope. It will be something you get used to, then there is a little less and you get used to that and so on, not a bang but a gradual whimper.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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In the world of no losers, the government in the name of rules and regulations, have all but eliminated the one thing that keeps a free market system moving.


Competition.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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There is and never has been an American Empire.
Precisely!
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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I don't know if you're correct either way, but is cuba an exception?
We do not rule Cuba either. The US and CUBA signed a lease:

Signed at Habana, July 2, 1903;
Approved by the President, October 2, 1903;
Ratified by the President of Cuba, August 17,1903;
Ratifications exchanged at Washington, October 6,1903


The United States of America and the Republic of Cuba, being desirous to conclude the conditions of the lease of areas of land and water for the establishment of naval or coaling stations in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda the Republic of Cuba made to the United States by the Agreement of February 16/23,1903, in fulfillment of the provisions of Article Seven of the Constitutional Appendix of the Republic of Cuba, have appointed their Plenipotentiaries to that end.- The President of the United States of America, Herbert G. Squiers, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary in Havana.
Avalon Project - Lease to the United States by the Government of Cuba of Certain Areas of Land and Water for Naval or Coaling Stations in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda; July 2, 1903

I don't think they would have signed the lease if they didn't want us there. Do you?
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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I don't think they would have signed the lease if they didn't want us there. Do you?
No.

And as i said, I wasn't sure either way. It was the first instance that came to mind - and I wasn't aware of the history.
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