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I've been reading these threads for many months. There's never, if even rarely, a thread that has dealt with factual bases.
The majority of the posts dealt with vulagrity, innuendo, sacrcasm and a group of repeat posters yelping about the same things: the President's arrogance, feelings of superiority, not 'getting it', his suspect African connections, doubting his citizenship, he's a Muslim (who baptises his children in a Christian church) he's an alien.....whatever popped into their minds. Yellow journalism works. But in the end we will pay dearly for it.
Well, now those RWNJ have the country in their hands. It does not bode well for us because they will do anything to not have Pres. Obama re-elected. The major problem with this is which shallow pool will they be drawing from for their mouthpiece?
The President allowed this to happen.
For the past two years, we've all been bombarded by thousands of hateful, inaccurate or downright deceptive e-mails about him and by an unrelenting flood of "hate" Obama talking heads on radio and TV. It was, and apparently still remains, an orchestrated effort to not only generate fear of him, but to delegitmize his Presidency. It's been an example of the lowest kind of politics, but one which has been wildly successful. Remember, just two years ago, a lot people thought the GOP was permanently dead, but it appears they are not because of that campaign of hatred and distrust.
But, ultimately, the fault for its success falls squarely on the President and his advisors because they made no effort to combat it. They let it go on unabated and unanswered for two, full years. Not only did they not respond, they didn't counter-attack, so the message has taken root and it's now too late. To suddenly shift gears and fight back after Tuesdays azz whuppin' would look like a desperate reaction grounded in fear of losing in 2012.
Sadly for the country, the GOP cannot now suddenly begin working with him to correct the horrible ills that still affect this country because they've made him the new face of evil and they can't be seen communing with that. They may find some real traction with those other Democrats who've seen the writing on the wall and run backwards from Obama, but I doubt that will result in much.
At the end of the day, I doubt he does "get it," and I doubt most others do either. They know they hate Obama, but that hatred is grounded in a deliberate pack of lies they've been fed and they don't see the manipulation.
Bottom line? Nothing of any importance will happen over the next two years as the GOP positions itself to totally destroy the Democrats in 2012. The Dems had the chance to do that to the GOP in the aftermath of 2008, but lacked the guts. The GOP is not affected by such timidity and will go for the throat. The nation will suffer badly, though, while that fight is drawn out.
I've been reading these threads for many months. There's never, if even rarely, a thread that has dealt with factual bases.
The majority of the posts dealt with vulagrity, innuendo, sacrcasm and a group of repeat posters yelping about the same things: the President's arrogance, feelings of superiority, not 'getting it', his suspect African connections, doubting his citizenship, he's a Muslim (who baptises his children in a Christian church) he's an alien.....whatever popped into their minds. Yellow journalism works. But in the end we will pay dearly for it.
Well, now those RWNJ have the country in their hands. It does not bode well for us because they will do anything to not have Pres. Obama re-elected. The major problem with this is which shallow pool will they be drawing from for their mouthpiece?
And is your post factual? Or just strong opinion? Your opinion is that the Republicans will do anything to not have Obama re-elected. I could just as easily say that the Democrats will do anything to make sure Obama is re-elected. One is just as true as the other...both opinions.
Asking if he 'gets it' is a legitimate question in light of the elections results. Does he understand that people took to the polls because they don't like his policies..don't want his agenda? To those who feel the answer is 'no' (including myself), feelings of superiority and arrogance on his part help explain how he doesn't get it.
And is your post factual? Or just strong opinion? Your opinion is that the Republicans will do anything to not have Obama re-elected.
It's my opinon based on my understanding of the fact, yes. I agree that the same is true if the situation were reversed.
My point was that,based upon the threads in this forum, actual issues were rarely discussed. Nearly everything posted was of personal opinion, gossip, half-baked ideas. Nearly always, posts devolved into personal insults and unfounded gossip. I certainly do believe not one party is any 'holier' than the other.
Did you listen to the President's press conference? I think he "gets it" just fine. You will never like his demeanor or his method of delivery. But that is strictly a personal dislike; it has nothing to do with his understanding of the issues or what he is trying to accomplish.
It's my opinon based on my understanding of the fact, yes. I agree that the same is true if the situation were reversed.
My point was that,based upon the threads in this forum, actual issues were rarely discussed. Nearly everything posted was of personal opinion, gossip, half-baked ideas. Nearly always, posts devolved into personal insults and unfounded gossip. I certainly do believe not one party is any 'holier' than the other.
Did you listen to the President's press conference? I think he "gets it" just fine. You will never like his demeanor or his method of delivery. But that is strictly a personal dislike; it has nothing to do with his understanding of the issues or what he is trying to accomplish.
And therein lies the problem. He is trying to accomplish his own agenda despite what the people want. And he will continue to try to do so. He DOES NOT 'get it' at all. I have neither faith nor trust in this President.
As far as his demeanor and attitude, I do not like it as I think he is a narcissist, arrogant jerk. However, that is MY opinion only and I know several people that feel differently.
It's my opinon based on my understanding of the fact, yes. I agree that the same is true if the situation were reversed.
My point was that,based upon the threads in this forum, actual issues were rarely discussed. Nearly everything posted was of personal opinion, gossip, half-baked ideas. Nearly always, posts devolved into personal insults and unfounded gossip. I certainly do believe not one party is any 'holier' than the other.
Did you listen to the President's press conference? I think he "gets it" just fine. You will never like his demeanor or his method of delivery. But that is strictly a personal dislike; it has nothing to do with his understanding of the issues or what he is trying to accomplish.
Yes, I did see his press conference, and have no problem with his demeanor. He seemed genuinely downtrodden. But I still don't think he gets it. He expressed sorrow for those long time 'public servants' who got voted out, and wondered if there was more if could have done...without understanding that he asked them to walk the plank with votes on healthcare and cap/trade which were against the will of their constituents.
He understands that in his haste to repair the economy, he resorted to the old ways of Washington, full of earmarks and special deals. But doesn't understand that the repairs themself are unpopular.
For the past year, the people have been saying enough..through the Tea Party; turnaround elections in New Jersey and Virginia; Scott Brown; angry town halls. And he still forged ahead with his agenda. And still believes that it's the process, and process only that's the issue. So no...he doesn't get it.
But, ultimately, the fault for its success falls squarely on the President and his advisors because they made no effort to combat it. They let it go on unabated and unanswered for two, full years.
The nation will suffer badly, though, while that fight is drawn out.
I couldn't agree with you more. They, the President and the Democrats starting fighting back too late. And it was far too late. For that he and they are solely responsible.
People bought the Republicans' out right lies and character assassinations lock, stock and barrel. The President and his advisors did nothing....wrongly thinking the American public would see through the scheme. That was a mistake that we will not recover from, imo.
We are in for a very rough ride. The people who bought that President Obama was responsible for our deficit, unemployment, etc. will need to shift their animosity to the House they wanted so badly. Well, they've got it.
Not to mention that so many of the Reps are first-timers in the House. I can't wait to see how they right the world wide economy, turn the economy around, solve unemployment, end all wars, institute an affordable health care plan, solve the southern border problem - all in two years!!! it's going to be spectacular!
I couldn't agree with you more. They, the President and the Democrats starting fighting back too late. And it was far too late. For that he and they are solely responsible.
People bought the Republicans' out right lies and character assassinations lock, stock and barrel. The President and his advisors did nothing....wrongly thinking the American public would see through the scheme. That was a mistake that we will not recover from, imo.
We are in for a very rough ride. The people who bought that President Obama was responsible for our deficit, unemployment, etc. will need to shift their animosity to the House they wanted so badly. Well, they've got it.
Not to mention that so many of the Reps are first-timers in the House. I can't wait to see how they right the world wide economy, turn the economy around, solve unemployment, end all wars, institute an affordable health care plan, solve the southern border problem - all in two years!!! it's going to be spectacular!
And did it concern you that Obamma had NO experience/qualifications to be President? A community organizer with an incredibly radical upbringing?? He is in over his head and our country is literally paying for it.
Watching FOX now talking about the Pres speech. Saying the "Manufactured Crisis" we are in is not real? Wow.
Ease up Bob.
Florida is about to get better.
Maybe now you'll get a job.
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