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Old 11-16-2010, 12:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Surprise, surprise.

The same right to use deadly force that we give the most raw police academy graduate (and even civilians in cases of self defense) is available to our federal government.

Who'd have ever imagined such a thing?

Who is authorized to just kill someone on sight? Come on, tell us? You know the answer is NOBODY! Police just can't shoot people for the hell of it, even if they are shot at and the assailant is running away.

You purposely muddied this up to fit your snarky agenda.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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Was Hitler ever put on trial??
His Generals were put on trial and their defense that the "lawyers said it was OK"....was laughed out of court as it should have been.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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What do you mean "deemed legal"?

Are you saying that just because Bush received legal memos from lawyers saying that his torture of prisoners was legal that protects him from prosecution???

I'm sorry but Hitler had lawyers too and their advice to him didn't serve as a defense.
Yes, that is exacly what I am saying. Those techniques WERE legal until Obama got into office. That was one of the first things he changed. He made those techniques illegal, but now he just ships the people to other countries where it is legal...RENDITION. So is Obama really any better?
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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Was Hitler ever put on trial??
He would have been had he not killed himself first. Just a scared, pathetic man who couldn't face the consequences of his own actions.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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His Generals were put on trial and their defense that the "lawyers said it was OK"....was laughed out of court as it should have been.
I think there is a huge difference between waterboarding someone with medical staff present and putting people in ovens and gas chambers. Even you know there is a difference.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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That deserves to be reposted. How patriotic of these people that they choose a known terrorist over our own President.

Pathetic.

I have seen some pretty idiotic threads but this one takes the cake. Anyone that goes as far as the OP or sided with her/him does not deserve to call themself a patriot. What a disgrace.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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One has nothing to do with the other.
Nonsense. They are exactly the same thing.

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This isn't about killings on the battlefield or in self defense. It's about putting an American citizen on a list to be killed while sleeping, while driving, while speaking on the phone.
Which in the case of a terrorist could absolutely be self defense.

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Police are not allowed to that and neither is the President.
Wrong again ranger. Police can shoot you in the back if you are trying to flee. Wake up and smell the coffee.

We have always... in every society and every nation... given the power to use deadly force to our government. We do that every time we give a policeman a gun or commit our soldiers to war.

We thankfully live in a nation where that force is more often than not used judiciously.

This is an example of very judicious use of that power.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Nonsense. They are exactly the same thing.


Which in the case of a terrorist could absolutely be self defense.


Wrong again ranger. Police can shoot you in the back if you are trying to flee. Wake up and smell the coffee.

We have always... in every society and every nation... given the power to use deadly force to our government. We do that every time we give a policeman a gun or commit our soldiers to war.

We thankfully live in a nation where that force is more often than not used judiciously.

This is an example of very judicious use of that power.

Where the hell were you raised? Police most certainly are not allowed to shoot a suspect in the back if they are fleeing. Are you really that clueless or are you just arrogant?
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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This would be a good tool to use to get rid of Republican obstructionist. Just have Delta Force kill them and get rid of your opposition the easy way. Sounds like a plan to me!
So you think the president killing republicans is good for the country.

WOW
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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Nonsense. They are exactly the same thing.


Which in the case of a terrorist could absolutely be self defense.


Wrong again ranger. Police can shoot you in the back if you are trying to flee. Wake up and smell the coffee.

We have always... in every society and every nation... given the power to use deadly force to our government. We do that every time we give a policeman a gun or commit our soldiers to war.

We thankfully live in a nation where that force is more often than not used judiciously.

This is an example of very judicious use of that power.
Good thing we bombed the schyt outa Iraq.
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