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I am capable of compartmentalization. The two should have nothing to do with each other. I don't get involved in politics--because politics offends me. But I don't attend religious services either. I have beliefs, I just don't see the need to attend services.
One has nothing to do with the other for me either.
Nice. But truthfully, i'm not one to lionize the Founding Fathers. Not even George Washington. Could have something to do with the fact that i'm an African American.
So why don't y'all leave the moral dilemma of not being able to feed or get health care for a 2 day old up to the participants who had said 2 day old, rather than society? 1. There's adoption instead of handouts. 2. Shoot, there's even condoms (or, get this one: don't have sex if you can't afford the consequence whether it be a baby or the HIV cocktail) that would prevent someone who can't afford to feed or medically care for a 2 day old.
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2. A little late for that when the baby's already two days old, isn't it?
Last edited by CaseyB; 11-22-2010 at 12:24 PM..
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I am not religious and it very much impacts my political views.
If someone who is elected or a candidate can't keep their religious views back stage then I have a problem. Religion and government is a bad mix and we have no real need to regress.
Back in the day (Antioch v Alexandria v Constantinople v Rome), people were needlessly slaughtered by thugs (both rulers and clergy for lack of a better term) all professing to know what God wanted with the underlying motive of a lot of power. All of this over whether Jesus was God or was he a man and then at what point did he become divine. Had the big JC been too much of a man or human it would have been too Jewish -oh no lets kill Jewish people. Better to make him a superhero. Well, Mary can't be the mother of god......that harkens back to pagans lets destroy them. Just back and forth. And did anybody learn anything? Hell no, we had to go through hundreds more years of moral crusades (all state religions are a moral crusade) and an endless slaughter of people.
And the kicker is that when they were pulverizing each other for a few centuries deciding what people were going to believe-they launched moral crusades because every little act of nature was retribution from God because his policies were not carried out. Each side thought that their God policies must be followed.
Pat Robertson says Haiti deserved the earthquake because God didn't want them to be Catholics. And we have the technology and science to demonstrate that is not the case. The WM3 are still on death row due to suspected "witchcraft". And don't get me started on the number of people in prison for "devil cults" and day care centers. It is 2010.
So, yeah, I have no problem with religious people providing they keep that far away from government and issues that impact the people that live in this country. It has never worked before and it will not work now.
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2. A little late for that when the baby's already two days old, isn't it?
Honestly, the most responsible thing an unprepared parent can do is give the child up for adoption. Yes, that is a Christian thing to do, if you want to put it in those terms. If the people having the baby are too young, too poor, too crazy, too angry/abusive or too irresponsible/immature, they should definitely consider adoption.
Even when the baby is 2 days old.
But they should have thought about all that before they even got pregnant to begin with.
Last edited by CaseyB; 11-22-2010 at 12:25 PM..
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What astounds me the most is that some of the people who pretend to be Christians can accept so easily that many in this society do not have good access to health care.
It is equally amazing that such proponents accept that slavery (compelled labor for the benefit of another) is a "Good thing".
Or ignore that it was government's fault that we have the medical nightmare.
Who else criminalized the unlicensed trade in health care?
Who else caused inflation?
Who else caused skyrocketing malpractice insurance premiums?
Who else caused administrative overhead?
Who else is to blame, but government?
Honestly, the most responsible thing an unprepared parent can do is give the child up for adoption. Yes, that is a Christian thing to do, if you want to put it in those terms. If the people having the baby are too young, too poor, too crazy, too angry/abusive or too irresponsible/immature, they should definitely consider adoption.
Even when the baby is 2 days old.
But they should have thought about all that before they even got pregnant to begin with.
So a couple get pregnant while employed, lose their job(s) during the pregnancy, and they should give up the kid for adoption?
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