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Are you suggesting that God is no better at keeping a story straight than two random witnesses to a car accident?
Really?
Are you?
I'm suggesting that the different accounts were written to emphasize different things. Whether either had every single detail is irrelevant. It's not the point that the writer was trying to make. I know this may be hard to understand, but not every culture's literature is identical to what you've come to expect.
It's all about hate, these people hate Christians, Muslims, Jews, pretty much anyone who believes in a religion, but especially Christians.
Now, that is arrogance. Why is christianity any more different than any of the other religious delusions? They are all based on flawed logic. Atheists don't really hate the religious, we just think they have some truly strange ideas.
Now, that is arrogance. Why is christianity any more different than any of the other religious delusions? They are all based on flawed logic. Atheists don't really hate the religious, we just think they have some truly strange ideas.
Maybe because Christianity tends to get targeted by the neo-atheists?
I realize that Christianity is the biggest religion in the US...but think about it: when a Christian pastor was going to burn a koran, everyone and their sister was spouting off about how wrong it was. "It will turn 'moderate' muslims into violent ones!", they screamed.
I'm suggesting that the different accounts were written to emphasize different things.
Then explain to us... what exactly are the "different things" emphasized by the one account of Judas' death vs. the other. Pay particular attention in your response to the reasons why those "different things" were in your opinion better emphasized by substantively misrepresenting the actual occurrence in both accounts.
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Originally Posted by Calvinist
Whether either had every single detail is irrelevant. It's not the point that the writer was trying to make. I know this may be hard to understand, but not every culture's literature is identical to what you've come to expect.
It is not the slightest bit difficult to "understand." It is however almost impossible to take seriously. Were it a single occurrence it would almost be understandable. That such inconsistencies and contradictions run ubiquitously through the Bible speaks not to a difference in cultural literature at all. It speaks to the inability of God to remember what he said just a few pages prior.
I chose the example of Judas' death because it is so dramatic and the apologetic response so absurd. I could have chosen scores of other, more prosaic but at the same time even more directly contradictory examples. Just trying to do a concordance between the four Gospels on the Resurrection tale (for example) reveals so many direct contradictions that it requires the players to have been in several different places at the same time and to the completely opposite things.
So... I look forward to something more substantive than hand-waving about "cultural relativity." Please... explain God's rational for getting both stories so astoundingly wrong.
Now, that is arrogance. Why is christianity any more different than any of the other religious delusions? They are all based on flawed logic. Atheists don't really hate the religious, we just think they have some truly strange ideas.
Actually.... there is a difference between religions that accounts for them receiving different attention from non-believers.
Christianity and its daughter religion Islam are the only two major "exclusive monotheisms." Unlike any other great world religion they not only demonize non-believers as "infidels," but also deny them the prospect of eternal salvation. Unbelievers are not merely neutral... they are actively deserving of eternal suffering in a lake of fire.
Compounding the problem of their foundational intolerance is that they are also both "imperial religions," each with a formal assignment from God to conquer or convert the rest of the world. So... they start with a formal theological intolerance and then actively seek to spread that intolerance everywhere they possibly can.
Is there a surprise that non-believers might push back?
Maybe because Christianity tends to get targeted by the neo-atheists?
I realize that Christianity is the biggest religion in the US...but think about it: when a Christian pastor was going to burn a koran, everyone and their sister was spouting off about how wrong it was. "It will turn 'moderate' muslims into violent ones!", they screamed.
Really?
Since when is putting up a billboard with an opinion that differs from yours, "targeting"?....Once again Christmas is a pagan celebration of the winter solstice that was hi-jacked by Christians...I don't see any pagans here playing victim, do you? Some of you Christians need to get over it...One freaking sign causes all this uproar....Look around you. I see a hell of a lot more Christian signs that I ignore, can't you ignore just one.....I guess not.
And since that's not going to happen your challenge is an absurd one.
Why not? You could put your money where your mouth is and take a nice Florida vacation at the same time.
Unless you're scared. If you're scared, just say you're scared. Otherwise, you have offered no proof.
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