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Old 12-20-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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You said NAZI stands for National Socialist German Workers' Party. Which is not true shown by your own link. Commonly known in English as the Nazi Party. Nazi Party not Nazi as you said.
Again from the link..
commonly known in English as the Nazi Party (from the German Nazi, abbreviated from the pronunciation of Nationalsozialist[5]), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.

They are one of the same.. THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME..
Again from the link
National Socialist Germany Workers Party, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE NAZI PARTY, was known as the GERMAN WORKERS PARTY prior to the name change in 1920..
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Nazi Party not Nazi as you said.
Really, this is the crutch of your argument, that I said Nazi, not Nazi Party? ps did you look at the above.. Nazi Party, from the German NAZI? Its Nazi Party in English, Nazi in German. They are THE SAME..

What you are doing is arguing that if someone says
Democratic Party, and I respond by saying "Democrats", you would reply that I'm wrong because Democrats dont make up the Democratic party.. How silly.. Seriously, whats your point unless you think Nazi's didnt make up the Nazi Party
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I am NOT discussing another Nazi Party, the NSDAP is the Nazi Party. It is the National Socialist German Workers Party, the Party of Nazi's who are the National Socialists..
we were discussing the Nazi Party.. Before you went on some tangent about "Nazi" vs "Nazi Party"
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The origin of the word "Nazi" is not from "to nationalize" as I have already shown in many of my posts. Here again:

Online Etymology Dictionary

And nowhere in your link it says the word Nazi comes from nationalization.
The Nazis pushed forward a political ideology consisting of the third position, which consisted of distributing the means of production. The Third Poisition comes from a National Bolshevism, National Bolshevism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

National Bolshevism is a political movement that claims to combine elements of nationalism and Bolshevism.[1] It is often anti-capitalist in tone, and sympathetic towards certain nationalist forms of communism and socialism. Nevertheless, National Bolshevism is separate and distinct from National Communism.

Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 12-20-2010 at 05:50 PM.. Reason: Please discuss the topic, not each other.

 
Old 12-20-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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'Study' Claiming Fox News Viewers 'Misinformed' Is Fraught With Errors | NewsBusters.org

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"[T]he definition of a respondent who is considered 'informed,'" Zurawik wrote, "is essentially someone who agrees with the conclusions of experts in government agencies."
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lac...#ixzz18gxefumf

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Dec10_rpt.pdf

Oh no , now they tell us about the "disclaimers";

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…misinformation cannot simply be attributed to news sources, but are part of the larger information environment that includes statements by candidates, political ads and so on.
Z on TV: Survey on Fox News: Who defines 'misinformed'? - TV show critic David Zurawik on the show business, culture and craziness of television - baltimoresun.com

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Here is the key passage of their note: "A study of misinformation raises the somewhat delicate question of what is true....In the course of this study, to identify “misinformation” among voters, we used as reference points the conclusions of key government agencies that are run by professional experts and have a strong reputation for being immune to partisan influences...."
So...they decided that the government was the place to look for the "truth". A government filled to the brim with radical leftist and propagandists.....and the survey team went to the obama administration for the truth?

Totally and completely discredited.

This left-wing study was a foregone conclusion.
 
Old 12-20-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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By those loose definitions any weapon war weapon can be classified as a weapon of mass destruction. Even artillery shells. Hand grenades. Machine guns are designed to bring down many troops instead of just one.
In what way were the Iraq cannisters of mustard gas such a threat to the US to justify a war?
No, I didn't believe the Bush lies about the WMDs.
UN protocol which clearly defines mustard gas as a Chemical Weapon, which is a WMD. If you dont agree with them, please take it up with the UN.. Its beyond my control..
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That's how it is with the brainwashed right. They will believe anything fox tells them and will never admit when they are wrong, just twist the story and find a way to blame someone else.
Unable to respond with an intelligent reply so you have to resort to the typical left wing strategy.. Attack the poster, call them brainwashed, call them names, belittle, anything to try to distract attention from the fact that YOU WERE WRONG.. belittling me wont make you correct.. It just shows the mentality of some to be unable to discuss the topic with any sort of level of intelligence.. When you want to bring your discussion up to your age level, let me know and I'll glady discuss them with you again..
 
Old 12-20-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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So...they decided that the government was the place to look for the "truth". A government filled to the brim with radical leftist and propagandists.....and the survey team went to the obama administration for the truth?
You're right! In order to win your cheers and applause they should have gone to the Bush administration, because they told nothing but the truth all the time...but I'll bet you already knew that.
 
Old 12-20-2010, 03:38 PM
 
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You're right! In order to win your cheers and applause they should have gone to the Bush administration, because they told nothing but the truth all the time...but I'll bet you already knew that.
The president isnt Bush.. So if they looked to government for answers, it would have been the Obama administration, unless this poll is 2 year old...
 
Old 12-20-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You're right! In order to win your cheers and applause they should have gone to the Bush administration, because they told nothing but the truth all the time...but I'll bet you already knew that.
And what would you be saying if a survey was conducted using the Bush administration's "truth" on issues?

You don't have to answer, we already know what the Left would be saying.

So you have a liberal team, conducting a survey, using obama donators, liberal think tank members and socialists, as well as using obama administration propaganda on various issues as "truth" by which to judge if people are misinformed. This is just beautiful, totally debunked and discredited.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Again from the link..
commonly known in English as the Nazi Party (from the German Nazi, abbreviated from the pronunciation of Nationalsozialist[5]), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.

They are one of the same.. THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME..
Again from the link
National Socialist Germany Workers Party, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE NAZI PARTY, was known as the GERMAN WORKERS PARTY prior to the name change in 1920..

Really, this is the crutch of your argument, that I said Nazi, not Nazi Party? ps did you look at the above.. Nazi Party, from the German NAZI? Its Nazi Party in English, Nazi in German. They are THE SAME..

What you are doing is arguing that if someone says
Democratic Party, and I respond by saying "Democrats", you would reply that I'm wrong because Democrats dont make up the Democratic party.. How silly.. Seriously, whats your point unless you think Nazi's didnt make up the Nazi Party


we were discussing the Nazi Party.. Before you went on some tangent about "Nazi" vs "Nazi Party"

The Nazis pushed forward a political ideology consisting of the third position, which consisted of distributing the means of production. The Third Poisition comes from a National Bolshevism, National Bolshevism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

National Bolshevism is a political movement that claims to combine elements of nationalism and Bolshevism.[1] It is often anti-capitalist in tone, and sympathetic towards certain nationalist forms of communism and socialism. Nevertheless, National Bolshevism is separate and distinct from National Communism.
The Nazi Party in Germany was the NSDAP with Hitler as its leader. Sorry that you don't know that and you think there are two parties.

And you still cannot provide proof that Nazi comes from "to nationalize" which it doesn't.
You are spreading misinformation just like Fox News and you keep ignoring the true origin of the word. I have yet to see that Nazi comes from "to nationalize". In Germany the Socialists were called Sozis and National Socialists were called - in analogy to the already established Sozi - Nazi. Originally the term Nazi was a familiar form from Bavaria which then people used to call National Socialist.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 04:45 AM
 
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The only thing that amuses me more than people thinking the NSDAP is an example of socialism is people calling somebody a socialist and a fascist on the same protest sign.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Very interesting High School debate going on here.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 05:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Pamky View Post
The Nazi Party in Germany was the NSDAP with Hitler as its leader. Sorry that you don't know that and you think there are two parties.

And you still cannot provide proof that Nazi comes from "to nationalize" which it doesn't.
You are spreading misinformation just like Fox News and you keep ignoring the true origin of the word. I have yet to see that Nazi comes from "to nationalize". In Germany the Socialists were called Sozis and National Socialists were called - in analogy to the already established Sozi - Nazi. Originally the term Nazi was a familiar form from Bavaria which then people used to call National Socialist.
I never thought there was two parties.. You are the one telling me they were different. Remember you telling me Nazis were not the Nazi Party?
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Originally Posted by Pamky View Post
You said NAZI stands for National Socialist German Workers' Party. Which is not true shown by your own link. Commonly known in English as the Nazi Party. Nazi Party not Nazi as you said.
You seriously didnt go there.
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